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Not exactly joined up thinking, Hilary...

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Rosina Wed 04-Mar-20 17:50:36

Looking through the news today I see several comments made by Hilary Mantel about the Duchesses of Suffolk and Cambridge. Of Meghan she says : 'I do think abominable racism has been involved' and then 'I think there has been an element of racism in the invective against her.' These comments seem somewhat conflicting, the one suggesting a tirade of racist abuse and the second questioning a possibility; then 'People who say that's got nothing to do with it - well they need to check their privilege' What exactly does that mean? No examples are quoted here to support her opinion.
Ms Mantel continues by saying that there is 'intense concentration' around the bodies of Royal woman, and then weighs in with a charming description of Kate by saying that she is like a 'jointed doll on which certain rags are hung'. That must be gratifying to read when you have always made every effort to look the best you can in public - with much success in my opinion.

merlotgran Wed 04-Mar-20 17:52:47

Meghan is the Duchess of Sussex.

Hilary Mantel has a new book to flog.

Nuff said!

NfkDumpling Wed 04-Mar-20 17:55:44

I do find I have to separate Ms Mantel from her books. I’m really looking forward to reading the last tome but I find myself shouting at the radio when she’s on. I’m sure she’s a very nice lady but....

Smileless2012 Wed 04-Mar-20 17:57:44

Was there any thought there at all, joined up or otherwise?

TBH I'm fed up with supporters of M playing the racist card. It's quite clear to me that the criticism she's receiving is due to her arrogance and the way she has dis respected the Queen. I say that as someone who is not a royalist.

A horrible comment about Kate; presumably even if she thought it about M she wouldn't say so in case she was accused of "abominable racism" or demonstrating an "element of racism".

Calendargirl Wed 04-Mar-20 17:58:21

I doubt if the Duchess of Cambridge will lose sleep over Hilary’s daft comment.

eazybee Wed 04-Mar-20 18:01:01

I listened to her Reith lectures in 2017 (?).
Some parts were extremely weird, as are some of her other pronouncements, and indeed, some of her books.

Greymar Wed 04-Mar-20 18:09:47

TBH I'm fed up with supporters of M playing the racist card.

TBH I'm fed up with people using this outmoded and unpleasant phrase.

Smileless2012 Wed 04-Mar-20 19:54:46

Accusing people of being racist when their comments have nothing to do with race, but are based on how someone has behaved are unpleasant.

It must be very distressing for anyone who is being abused and/or victimised purely because of their race.

SirChenjin Wed 04-Mar-20 19:59:55

Who exactly is Hilary Mantel and why is she making sweeping accusations of racism?

Callistemon Wed 04-Mar-20 20:10:51

*^I'm sure she's a very nice lady^

I'm sure she is not NfkDumpling sorry.

SirChenjin she is an author, she wrote Wolf Hall which is about Thomas Cromwell, and this is the third book in the trilogy which she is flogging.

Namsnanny Wed 04-Mar-20 20:14:45

Is that a tongue in cheek comment SirChenjin ? I'm asking because I was just about to launch into an explanation, but remembered your sense of humour!

Smileless2012 Wed 04-Mar-20 20:15:27

Oh I've read the first two and didn't make the connection. Don't see why that qualifies her to make her racism accusations thoughconfused.

Namsnanny Wed 04-Mar-20 20:15:39

Agree totally with you Merlotgran

Namsnanny Wed 04-Mar-20 20:17:07

Smileless The journalists seem to think because she wrote about some royals she must know about all of them, I think!

Namsnanny Wed 04-Mar-20 20:19:40

The comments about racism towards the D of S are become boring now.

Callistemon Wed 04-Mar-20 20:22:39

Did I fall into the trap, SirChenjin grin

I must say I was surprised you may not know!!

Yes, who is she and who cares?

SueDonim Wed 04-Mar-20 20:24:53

I thought this was going to be a thread about Hilary Clinton and the American presidential elections! confused

GagaJo Wed 04-Mar-20 20:26:09

I agree Greymar.

SirChenjin Wed 04-Mar-20 20:34:48

No Namsnanny I genuinely don’t know! I was being very lazy by not googling but was sitting in the car waiting for my son who was just about to finish his rugby training and didn’t have time.

I’m now wondering what my sense of humour is perceived to be...!

SirChenjin Wed 04-Mar-20 20:38:03

I’ve just had a quick look online and I see she possesses quite a barbed pen. I think I shall file her opinions under ‘ignore’.

Anniebach Wed 04-Mar-20 20:43:46

The woman writes fiction and is a republican,

sodapop Wed 04-Mar-20 20:55:44

Seems Hilary Mantel can criticise others for things they supposedly said but its ok for her to be extremely rude about the Duchess of Cambridge. Double standards ?

Chewbacca Wed 04-Mar-20 21:01:33

I watched the Mantel interview and, to be honest, I thought that she just waffled on and on and on..... She made the statement about racism being a factor but she failed to give any reasons or logic as to how she'd come to her conclusion. I just dismissed her as being an author trying to flog her next book.

Callistemon Wed 04-Mar-20 21:14:08

SueDonim I think that Ms Clinton is Hillary with a double ell! Like Anne with an ee, it matters.

Callistemon Wed 04-Mar-20 21:15:53

Apologies again SirChenjin!