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Is the Home Office betraying us?

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NannyC2 Tue 05-May-20 20:15:53

Just watched a video taken early yesterday morning (Mon) with Nigel Farage in East Sussex.
Border Forces picked up people from a boat that was crammed full of immigrants and began ferrying them into Dover The BF are supposed to protect us not be a taxi service, and yet, that is apparently what the Home Office is telling them to do.
A second vessel arrived - how many others would have followed?
Some may be legitimate but how many aren't? There is a proper system which should be used.
What is the state of their health? Are they carrying Covid 19 with potential of spreading the virus further?
The media is all into Covid but nothing being reported about more and more people arriving on our shores! Shouldn't we be concerned?

trisher Thu 07-May-20 15:30:00

Ngaiol if you are interested the figures are here www.gov.uk/government/publications/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2018/how-many-people-are-detained-or-returned

Iam64 Thu 07-May-20 19:45:43

As Elegran said, we aren't condoning "people sneaking into GB without papers". If they're found they're detained in detention centres, isolated from the rest of society.
Ngaoio1 - I'm sure that PPE is an issue for Border Force, as it is for nurses, doctors, care workers, police officers, social workers etc etc.
Blaming a few people who manage to "sneak' into the country for the spread of this virus misses the point that sadly, the country was ill prepared.

Dinahmo Thu 07-May-20 22:36:58

I think that NF being in Dover on Monday was organised by the right of centre media to draw fire from the government in order to prevent further criticism. Same as the fuss about Neil Ferguson and his girlfriend. Apparently his "misdemeanor" had been known about for a few weeks but the press chose to announce it this week. A couple of good days to bury bad news.

growstuff Fri 08-May-20 03:22:43

Ngaio There is something called the right of transit passage, which covers the Channel. With some exceptions, shipping from anywhere has a right to use it, even within what are known as UK waters. The UK would be contravening international law, if it were to send patrol boats offshore and interfere with passage.

Until the UK finally leaves the EU, the situation is easier for the UK because the border is effectively in France. As the UK is not in Schengen, there is still border control. Asylum seekers are prevented from boarding ferries and travelling to the UK. However, after the transition period who knows what will happen? If border control reverts to UK ports, asylum seekers will find it easier to reach British soil simply by boarding a ferry. I can't imagine France will want to stop people leaving the country.

And what about Ireland? Are people still going to be allowed to walk over the border and then claim asylum in Northern Ireland? Ireland isn't in Schengen, but the UK is still going to have to rely on Irish goodwill to stop people finding their way to the Irish coast and entering the UK.

The amount of irregular immigration pales into insignificance compared with the number of people who are entering the UK legitimately (and have entered since the outbreak started) and are still not being screened and/or quarantined.

growstuff Fri 08-May-20 03:25:39

What a surprise, eh, Dinahmo? hmm Smear "Professor Lockdown" and the gormless see his policy as discredited. There's too much so-called politics of this ilk.