Trump is shocked his supporters are low life/low class

I think Melania is a woman who knew exactly what she was doing when she married Donad Trump and has followed the course she set herself to the letter

She had no desire to be First Lady, with all that involved, so she wasn't. She kept right out of the Trump family political project - and will continue to do so. She will only leave her marriage if she has to jump before she is pushed.

PippaZ It was a question of being believed not to read the bible rather than whether we were allowed to or not.

Scientific American has an interesting article on Trump and his followers-

"The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists
Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it"

www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shared-psychosis-of-donald-trump-and-his-loyalists/

If Melania is so worried about threats she could get The Donald to build a wall around Mar a Largo - he’s fond of walls!!!!!?

Nanna58

If Melania is so worried about threats she could get The Donald to build a wall around Mar a Largo - he’s fond of walls!!!!!?

I would expect Melania’s security screen is substantial and very well armed. Mar a Largo similarly, will be well protected, as will Biden and other Democrats, there are a lot of angry rednecks willing to make a name for themselves.

It’s no joking matter at all they are dangerous

It is not the Democrats who are dangerous.

M0nica your comment about Melania’s motivation intrigues me, what do you think was in her mind when you said she knew what she was doing - do you think she actually loves him and wants to stay, or does she have her own political ambitions she wants to achieve later, or is it the money and she’s prepared to sacrifice everything for a ‘comfortable’ life financially (I can’t imagine it being comfortable in any other way) - or something else?

Casdon I doubt love comes into it and I feel very sure that politics are not on her mind. I always see the Trump relationship as being like a business agreement. I would imagine there is a very carefully negotiated pre-nup

I think she provides him with a wife that will not respond to all that is revealed about his shenigans with other women and will not interfere in his political games either. He gets a reliable, well behaved and presentable wife who can be taken to parties where respectable royalty and heads of government are present and can be guaranteed not to get involved in areas where he wants to reign supreme - as in government.

First ladies often get nearly as much publicity as their husbands, Trump doesn't want that, he wants a First lady who keeps out of the limelight but looks after his interests elsewhere; looks after the houses, and effectively keeps the home fires burning.

She is probably well rewarded to do this and the money she receives is well sheltered from any potential Trump.
bankruptcy.

I see the marriage as being a business agreement that suits them both.

Thank you, that does make sense to me - what a life though for her.

I doubt whether Melania is or ever has been the slightest bit interest in politics - it is all about money as far as she is concerned.

I can't think of any single member of the Trump clan who come across as anything other than trailer trash. Common as muck, the lot of 'em.

varian

It is not the Democrats who are dangerous.

Republican rednecks!.

Agree totally MOnica I think the marriage was a business agreement with a prenup.

Bit of a crass statement there David for a whole group of people

I read an interview with/about Melania somewhere or other (I think it was before she was First Lady). She was obviously looking for a rich hubby and mixed in circles of rich men. She reckoned Trump was less "gropey" than the others - maybe he can't do much with those small hands.

Arranged marriages and marriages made for entirely sensible reasons rather than love have been around since marriage began and Melania Trump will not be the first woman, or the last to decide to marry where her best interest lies, rather than for love. I do think we often get overly romantic about why people marry.

She and Trump seem to be well suited and both understand and fulfill their side of the bargain.

MOnica, “she and trump seem well suited and both understand and fulfill their part of the bargain”.
Imagine, that being the most positive spin to be put on Melanie

Sorry, predictive text - Melania

.........and what is wrong with that? There are many marriages entered into because the parties were in love where some years later they would be very glad to be able to say that they were well suited and both had understand and fulfill their part of the bargain”.

I have started a new thread re the agreement on the resolution that Trump should be impeached.

I hope that's alright with you all.

Yippee!

The spread of falsehoods about the integrity of the election — and now the roots of Wednesday’s rioting — have deeply infiltrated conservative Christian circles. Apocalyptic evangelical beliefs about the end of the world and the coming divine judgment blur with QAnon conspiracy theories that falsely assert the country is dominated by deep-state bureaucrats and pedophiles.

Abigail Spaulding, a stay-at-home mother of 15 who traveled to the rally with friends from her church in South Carolina, broke down in tears as she spoke about her fears for her children under a Biden administration. She said her husband had explained to their children that when Mr. Biden is sworn in as president, “they can take the Bible and call it hate speech and throw it out.” And she had other worries about Mr. Biden, drawn from Facebook and Twitter — all of which were false.

www.business-standard.com/article/international/a-holy-war-how-white-evangelical-christians-fused-with-trump-extremism-121011200304_1.html

I don't envy Joe Biden having to sort out the mess.

Did Trump's insurrection have "inside assistance?"

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/capitol-riot-inside-job-b1786896.html

I think without doubt that there was at least tolerance of the attempted coup if not active encouragment.

When the President himself is inciting them to storm The Capitol, when the President or his appointees make getting proper protection for The Capitol by calling up the National Guard and extra police very difficult, when those meant to be protecting it, see so much encouragment for the rioters from the President himself, then they are going to guard the building and deal with protesters on party lines and with an eye to their own futures.

There is now evidence that in 2020, as in 2916 Putin interfered with the US election in support of Trump.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-56423536#aoh=16159645942298&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s