People blocking Lifeboat Stations.

"I urge you to cease these treacherous activities"

... was one of the messages sent to the RNLI.

treacherous?

Dangerous talk from dangerous people. Fortunately, I think their numbers are small.

What do they expect them to do? Just stand by and watch while people drown? Or ask for a British passport before they fish someone out of the sea? Honestly it isn't just racist it's ridiculous. No, they will just look at the colour of their skin, but nobody is being honest enough to say that

Britain First are a busted flush, desperate to try and stay in the public eye. Racists one and all.

MaizieD

Apparently Britain First is now organising a hate campaign against the RNLI.

Britain First has launched a campaign to bombard the RNLI with complaints over English Channel crossings

It says it wants "to pressure them to abandon their support for illegal immigrant and people trafficking and focus instead on saving British lives"

twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1466700740068528133

It's not either/or. The RNLI still rescues British lives.

In the days when our shores had more shipping, many of the people saved were foreign crews anyway.

MaizieD

Apparently Britain First is now organising a hate campaign against the RNLI.

Britain First has launched a campaign to bombard the RNLI with complaints over English Channel crossings

It says it wants "to pressure them to abandon their support for illegal immigrant and people trafficking and focus instead on saving British lives"

twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1466700740068528133

What do they expect them to do? Just stand by and watch while people drown? Or ask for a British passport before they fish someone out of the sea? Honestly it isn't just racist it's ridiculous!

In one of your posts Rosina you made this observation:

....the UK has always had a welcoming attitude apart from a few lunatics of the sort that prompted the original post.

Now whilst I may have taken this phrase out of context, what I found difficult to accept was the word "always" - I think most of us are of an age when we remember the "No blacks, No Irish, No Dogs" notices in B&B and guest house windows.

That was the 1950s, when many of us were at school, and it also included the dreadful Notting Hill Race Riots, and whilst that era may have passed, the recent issues at Yorkshire Cricket Club does not seem to suggest that "always" welcoming is a UK characteristic.

The challenge for the UK seems to be that the unconscious antipathy to foreigners is particularly hard to pin down and education may well be a key.

But, judging by what appears to be an upsurge in recent years, we still have some way to go.

Apparently Britain First is now organising a hate campaign against the RNLI.

Britain First has launched a campaign to bombard the RNLI with complaints over English Channel crossings

It says it wants "to pressure them to abandon their support for illegal immigrant and people trafficking and focus instead on saving British lives"

twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1466700740068528133

tickingbird

MaizieD
Alegrias, can I borrow your banging head against a brick wall GIF please?

Answering FindingNemo’s question would be a lot less painful - wouldn’t it??

Go ahead, then, tickingbird. Feel free.

Just repeat what has been said over and over again on this thread...

MaizieD
Alegrias, can I borrow your banging head against a brick wall GIF please?

Answering FindingNemo’s question would be a lot less painful - wouldn’t it??

With pleasure MaizieD!

FindingNemo15

Can someone explain please. If the immigrants pay large amounts of money to the people smugglers why don't they use that money to set up home somewhere in Europe and in turn maybe settle down and get a job etc.

Alegrias, can I borrow your banging head against a brick wall GIF please?

Can someone explain please. If the immigrants pay large amounts of money to the people smugglers why don't they use that money to set up home somewhere in Europe and in turn maybe settle down and get a job etc.

Lemongrove agreed - and don't they jump on the bandwagon !

Lucca

UG (I think)posted it the other day.

Wasn’t me. I’ve no idea about this topic.

Rosina

Depressing to keep reading accusations of 'outright racism', 'bigotry' etc. when, if you 'RTFT', which I have, posters opinions seem to be contradicting each other on almost every 'fact' that is being put forward. I am well aware that European refugees are suffering trisher - it happens when your economy and society have collapsed and/or you are in the middle of a war zone - and the UK has always had a welcoming attitude apart from a few lunatics of the sort that prompted the original post. However - my concern was expressed for what happens once the refugees are here. How well can we educate children who cannot speak the language and are likely to be extremely traumatised? The waiting lists are horrendous for mental health services for young people - and many inner city schools have portakabins in playgrounds. Then there is the question of housing and the pressure on the NHS. This is not bigotry or racism - it's a matter of hard facts, and if people think more money from the government is the answer, then perhaps it is, but it won't cure any of these problems at once. New hospitals need staff - a shortage of which is part of the health crisis that we have now.

All true Rosina.....but easier for those who are race obsessed to ignore and carry on trying to make out that there is racism everywhere.
It’s simply a people problem, no matter where they come from, too many people all arriving at the same time.A knotty problem to solve for governments everywhere.

Alegrias1

I do think there are some who believe these people land on the beach and we say welcome to Britain, hand them a mobile phone, an NI number and the keys to a council house, then wave them off never to be seen again.

Don't forget the car.

MaizieD Are you serious? I will reply civilly to your outrageous remark - no, I would not bomb boats or drown people. GN is, hopefully, a discussion forum and if my views don't entirely chime with yours, confrontational and frankly silly remarks are tiresome. Most people are polite, but posters who find it necessary to be aggressive with comments such as 'Don't you understand?' and 'I'll try to explain this once again' ( presumably for the benefit of the intellectually challenged among us) are killing debate. Would you be so rude to my face? I doubt it.

I do think there are some who believe these people land on the beach and we say welcome to Britain, hand them a mobile phone, an NI number and the keys to a council house, then wave them off never to be seen again.

And other places have plenty who are lovely people, who don't deserve the traumatic things that have have happened to them, nor do they deserve to be left to starve, freeze, or drown becausea few of their fellow-countrymen are as predatory and heartless as the worst of our own.

grannypiper

trisher you are right we have plenty of our own that are a nightmare, we do not need to have an open border policy and allow people to come in unchecked.

Nobody's talking about an open border policy.

trisher you are right we have plenty of our own that are a nightmare, we do not need to have an open border policy and allow people to come in unchecked.

Where is that then??

grannypiper

I lived in a town in Germany with a high population of refugee's back in the 90's, not a place most Gransnetters could imagine or cope with. I won't tell you what it is like to live there as it won't fit into your "all people are lovely" world. The truth hurts.

I could take you to places in the UK where there isn't a single immigrant but not all of the people are lovely. What does that prove?

Some people are not lovely. We all know that. But most people are just average. If you leave all of them to perish, you are punishing the majority for what you think the minority might do.

The logical end of that kind of thinking is that we may as well just set off simultaneous nuclear bombs all over the globe and be done with it. That would serve the baddies right!

Nobody thinks all people are lovely. Stop making things up.

Most people think all people are human beings.