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How would you get MPs to focus on their jobs not sex?

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CvD66 Sun 22-May-22 07:27:52

Given there are currently 56 accusations of various assault by and against members of parliament, the Tories do seem to be leading the field in salacious revaluations. Today’s headlines highlight a Tory accused of using a date rape drug on 4 MPs, resulting in one waking up to find his nipples being licked! I know we are all waiting to see what diversionary tactics the PM will use to divert us from the Sue Grey report but this is a bit extreme! What remedies would you recommend to get MPs to focus on their job and not their own predilections! (No pun intended)

eazybee Sun 22-May-22 11:15:09

No mention of Angela Rayner and her married lover?
Odd, that.

Galaxy Sun 22-May-22 11:17:31

It's not about sex it's about rape and assault. Soneone having an affair whether that's Rayner or Johnson is a very different thing.

CvD66 Sun 22-May-22 12:07:29

kadinsky ..a few affairs? Using date rape drugs on colleagues and potential rape is much more serious than that! Funny how these appalling Tories are being trivialised by GNers claiming others are ‘as bad’. Yes you get affairs in any workplace but rape and drugging your colleagues is abuse of the the MINISTERIAL code. In any other work environment these people would be instantly suspended while investigations took place. Why not in the HoC?

Namsnanny Sun 22-May-22 12:13:37

Close the bars, permanently.

OakDryad Sun 22-May-22 12:34:43

The whole male-dominated culture needs to shift and the whip system needs scrutiny. Whips are vicious and use the drinking culture and knowledge of MPs sexual incontinence to keep them in line.

Andrew Mitchell, a former chief whip, in his recent memoir Beyond a Fringe discloses not only that Tory whips had a notebook containing all sorts of indiscretions, but that this was as a matter of course sent to John Major, the prime minister – and a former whip himself.

In a 1995 BBC documentary, Westminster’s Secret Service, Tim Fortescue, a whip under Ted Heath between 1970 and 1973, explained: “Anyone with any sense who was in trouble would come to the whips and tell them the truth, and say now, I’m in a jam, can you help? It might be debt, it might be … a scandal involving small boys, or any kind of scandal.

“And we would do everything we can because we would store up brownie points … and if I mean, that sounds a pretty, pretty nasty reason, but it’s one of the reasons because if we could get a chap out of trouble then he will do as we ask forever more.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/21/the-discreet-art-of-whipping-what-are-the-limits-for-parliaments-enforcers

Keeper1 Sun 22-May-22 12:50:38

It is the set up in the House of Parliament they are treated as a breed apart they even have there own Post Office. Once there they are treated with such reverence I am sure they lose touch with reality. They are there to do a job an represent us but I fear they lose sight of that and become convinced of their own importance.

ayse Sun 22-May-22 13:33:55

Affairs, well I’m not bothered if it’s two consenting adults. Criminal activity of any sort should be dealt with by the police not the whips.

Abolish the whip system and instead loyalty to country and all constituents not their just their own party. After all, they are supposed to represent their constituents.

Make it a 10.00 - 18.00 working house and no alcohol and no subsidies on food. Minimum number of hours to be spent in debates.

It’s not beyond the wit of man, woman and anyone in between to make a more effective and efficient way of governing. Money saving efficiency should begin at the heart of government.

Turn the heating right down to speed up business.

Cap expenses and irregularities to be investigated by the National Audit Office.

I could go on but it’s bit boring for a Sunday afternoon.

ayse Sun 22-May-22 13:35:03

Abolish Parliamentary privilege.

DiamondLily Sun 22-May-22 14:05:39

Crispin Blunt (Tory) is still supporting his chum, Ahmad Khan (Tory), recently convicted of a sex attack on a boy.

What a delightful bunch. ?

"The Conservative Party was facing demands to strip a senior MP of the whip today after he doubled-down in his support of a former politician who carried out a sex attack on a teenage boy.

Former Justice Minister Crispin Blunt this morning repeated his claim that Imran Ahmad Khan did not receive a fair trial, after the Wakefield MP was convicted of molesting a 15-year-old.

Mr Blunt, who like Khan is gay, questioned the conviction last month, and later announced he would quit his Reigate seat at the next election following an outcry at his intervention. '"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10841997/MP-Crispin-Blunt-insists-ex-Tory-Imran-Ahmad-Khan-INNOCENT-sex-attack-teenage-boy.html

Elegran Sun 22-May-22 14:43:30

timetogo2016

Castration could be an option.

Bromide in the canteen tea? Or in the booze?

Ilovecheese Sun 22-May-22 14:48:13

Is it really about sex though? Isn't sexual harassment more about power.

Esspee Sun 22-May-22 15:15:20

As regards the oversexed Tory MPs, perhaps castration may be the answer. What do you think?

OakDryad Sun 22-May-22 15:24:27

DiamondLily In true The Thick of It style, I suspect a room full of suits discussing just how many dead cats it might take to distract us from the imminent Sue Gray report.

DiamondLily Sun 22-May-22 15:57:51

OakDryad

DiamondLily In true The Thick of It style, I suspect a room full of suits discussing just how many dead cats it might take to distract us from the imminent Sue Gray report.

I used to love that programme lol

Malcolm Tucker was legend..?

Katie59 Sun 22-May-22 20:14:07

Where you have men and women working together you ARE going to get affairs - away from home, long hours it’s going to happen. It’s not the men entirely the women are complicit too

Esspee Sun 22-May-22 20:55:21

Affairs are one thing Katie59, drugging and sexual assault is quite another, as is rape and buggery.

Mollygo Sun 22-May-22 20:59:00

Apart from the rape issue, I’d just settle for an answer to the first 10 words of the question. If there was OFSTED for parliament, there would be a lot of “requires improvement” right across the house.
There may well be a lot of Parliamentary business going on at the moment, but what we hear about is accusation and counter accusation and questions like, “Do you know what he was doing? from people who were equally not focussing in parliamentary business.

BigBertha1 Sun 22-May-22 22:13:39

The Fish rots from the Head.

Welshwife Sun 22-May-22 22:33:49

Profumo’s main crime was lying to the HoC - he did later admit he was having an affair with Christine Keeler and at the notorious house parties but it was the lying to the House he had to resign for. I believe he was married to Valerie Hobson and she did stick with him. The whole thing was a really big mess and it ruined a number of people. In those days politicians did abide by what was expected of them.
I often wonder what some of these sexual harassment allegations actually consist of. In the 50/60s it was often the case that men said things to young women or tried standing too close to them. If someone was behind you it worked a treat if you stepped back while wearing stilettos and accidentally stood on their foot.!

Luckygirl3 Mon 23-May-22 07:59:43

Ae many on here are trying to point out, there is a massive difference between an extra-marital affair and sexual harassment and rape. Tory apologists do not seem to grasp this. Astonishing.

Kandinsky Mon 23-May-22 08:10:22

Yes I completely acknowledge that & have said so 3 times hmm
The thread title is misleading.

The word ‘sex’ covers more than one scenario so the op should have been much more specific in her thread title wording.

Kandinsky Mon 23-May-22 08:12:49

Maybe:,
‘ How to get MP’s to focus on their jobs not rape & sexual harassment’. would have been better.

volver Mon 23-May-22 08:17:10

If people just read the headline and not the story, that could explain why so many think Starmer was at a party but Johnson was ambushed by a cake.

MaizieD Mon 23-May-22 08:54:56

Kandinsky

Yes I completely acknowledge that & have said so 3 times hmm
The thread title is misleading.

The word ‘sex’ covers more than one scenario so the op should have been much more specific in her thread title wording.

It blindingly obvious to everyone else what the thread was about. Didn't you read the OP?

Kandinsky Mon 23-May-22 09:08:23

No I didn’t.
I only read the thread title.
Thread titles should be extremely clear for busy people who haven’t always got the time.