Is our Prime Minister really this dense?

Is it the "responsilbilty" bit that you are objecting to thatbags?

No.

It's DC's stupidity that's annoying me. News now saying that the murder could not have been prevented (oresumably by intelligence services).

He's only whining at social media because there has been a CameronMustGo hashtag (which I'm not following). Tit for tat. Childish.

He's a bloody prime minister. Where is his statesmanship?

Oh! Obviously I wasn't really comparing Facebook to Gransnet! I really thought anyone would be able to see the intended humour in that.

Yes. MI5 knew about them. And if the facebook message had been brought to their attention they would have done something about it.

Yes. Facebook is H U U U etc G E. Which means they can afford to employ many moderators.

"where is his statesmanship"??!!! He is suggesting making new laws to control the internet in the face of terrorism. What more "statesmanship" than that do you require?

Have you actually listened to what Rifkin said? (on the link I put up) He made an exception of this part of the whole thing. He acknowledged that the knowledge might have helped.

"He's only whining at social media because there has been a CameronMustGo hashtag (which I'm not following). Tit for tat. Childish"

!!!!!!!!!!

You have got to be joking! (or projection)

I think there is a worrying side to this. The government is trying to introduce more legislation to spy on individuals and in blaming Facebook they produce "evidence" that this is a necessary intrusion.
Quote from the article
"Human rights group Liberty said the ISC had "shamelessly" spun the facts in order to shift the blame on to communications companies."

Thanks, trisher.

But you can't sit back and allow terrorists to use Facebook to plan, and recruit for, their atrocities.

How many loudmouthed t****s each day post on Facebook that they are going to kill a soldier?

How many of those boasts can Facebook verify each day and forward to the FBI or other relevant authority?

How many front doors can the FBI break down each day to arrest those same loudmouthed t***s?

How many angry parents of misguided teenagers each day will sue Facebook and the FBI for harassing thier sweet little children for childish exaggeration?

worth reading It seems Facebook say they do not allow their site to used for terrorist purposes, whereas, in fact, they do.

They delete stuff that breaks their rules when they know about it. Same as Gransnet. What more can they do?

Be more thorough> As the threat of being into Court might encourage them to be.

How?

By developing and using smart software. They have the technology to find out what to sell us. They can put their minds to helping us detect potential threats. That's how!

MI5 can't do it but Facebook can. OK. Gotcha.

My mind is trying to grasp all this.

I think I saw recently that people are being told by Facebook what words to look out for if someone using Facebook might be thinking of committing suicide?
So Facebook could be proactive in advising people what words to look out for if someone using Facebook is genuinely plotting terrorism

Is that what you mean Jane10?

Facebook may be able to do more than they do currently, however it seems as if the fault [if you want to call it that, as this man's death may not have been preventable] is down to MI5, as they did have knowledge of these men and perhaps could have done more [or not! It's hard to really know isn't it?]

Different roles. Different filters. Facebook is only one way to potentially monitor internet traffic. Its not a case of either or. MI5 should be busy on the dark net. Everyone should contribute who can. It's not worth getting all worked up about Cameron. He's just the current PM. This war on terror will go on for years

Has anybody watched the 'Lee Rugby Murder' statement and questions session in parliament this afternoon I mentioned earlier on in this thread?

Call David Cameron a t--t call him an idiot but watch him speaking today and it does get the point he was trying to make in context.

Then you can make an informed decision on facts not supposition or whether you like the man or not. You can make your own astute decision, rather than rely on media bias or lack of information in print.

POGS we can't be expected to watch all of it. Some of us don't have the telly on during the day. It is fine to just watch the videos of the important bits.

Jinglbellsfrock

I take your point.

I did ask if anyone had seen it? I was genuinely interested to know as some other GN's mention they watch Parliament too.