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I think this man should be chrged with extreme child abuse

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jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Dec-15 10:34:39

I don't for one moment think he will be wishing he had drowned with them.

It is the men who make these decisions.

rosequartz Thu 10-Dec-15 10:33:04

Well , I think the report said they were crossing the Aegean Sea which I would think meant going from Turkey, where there is refuge, to Greece and a route to Europe.

The traffickers go round the camps offering a route to a better life.

trisher Thu 10-Dec-15 10:27:25

If the alternative is to be bombed, attacked or persecuted what do you do? It doesn't help condemning someone who has tried to do something and failed. Desperate people do risky things. He probably wishes he had drowned as well. If this was a mother who had survived would you be saying the same thing?

thatbags Thu 10-Dec-15 10:26:58

There isn't much info in the BBC report. It doesn't say if they had a safe place to stay in Turkey.

I wonder if I am far out to think he may have been the only member of the family who could swim at all.

rosequartz Thu 10-Dec-15 10:25:31

It's the traffickers that should be charged.

annie this family were fleeing from ISIL, the father made that clear. He was not fleeing from British bombs, in fact that is a rather sickening allegation.
We don't know his views on British or coalition involvement in trying to stop ISIL, do we.

It is not clear, either, whether this family was fleeing from Syria directly, or from the relative safety (but not ideal situation, I acknowledge) of a refugee camp in Turkey.

Both parents must have decided to take the risk, those poor innocent little children suffered the dreadful consequences.

Luckygirl Thu 10-Dec-15 10:25:26

Who are "they"? For my part the "they" who need to be stopped are the traffickers who are making mega-bucks.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Dec-15 10:23:12

They must know that children are drowning. They need to be stopped. At least in a camp in Turkey the children are alive.

Anniebach Thu 10-Dec-15 10:17:07

The family were fleeing from Syria, the country we are helping to bomb , let's lock the father up because we are part of the cause that caused his family's deaths , sickening thread

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Dec-15 10:04:56

If this man was charged and locked up in prison perhaps it would stop other men doing this to their families during the coming winter.

Elegran Thu 10-Dec-15 10:03:58

He must have been taking them away from something he thought would be even worse than the risk of drowning.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Dec-15 10:03:11

Well I am.

Luckygirl Thu 10-Dec-15 10:01:28

He too could have drowned. We cannot know the sort of desperation that drives a family to risk this. I am not prepared to judge him.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Dec-15 09:54:05

And, of course, he's pressing on to Europe.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Dec-15 09:52:59

angry

Seven children, youngest 20 days old, drowned.

Strange isn't it, that the men are the ones who manage to stay alive. I wonder how much they do to save their children, or are they too busy saving themselves?

Those children didn't ask to be put on that boat. We've pussy footed round these men too often.

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