The U.K. must negotiate a return to the Customs Union, and single market.

Agreed Whitewavemark2. Nobody in government is prepared to discuss it and the labour party remains remarkably silent. I just don't get it.

Starmer is probably right to wait until the next Tory PM makes such a hash of it, we have the worst winter possible- and for the polls to show very clearly that this is what the Labour Party, and the population at large, wants. Remember that most Unions, and Mick Lynch, are Brexiters and still do not accept that Brexit has caused this mess, and has weakened workers' rights and caused massive inflation and price rises.

Never interrupt the enemy when it is crucifying itself!

Sadly I think the phrase, ‘hell will freeze over first’, applies here and perhaps in more ways than one too.

Not very likely Conservatives won't do it and unless Labour changes its Leadership Starmer has ruled it out

Polls are changing fast currently. I do think they will continue to turn this coming winter, for all the wrong/right reasons. When polls and Labour members show that this is clearly what needs to happen, and that the majority of people are behind it- it will happen.

I agree Fleurpepper. Starmer will not go ahead of public opinion, but opinion will change as reality bites and the Brexit supporters power diminishes in favour of younger voters.

Starmer is not going to touch it before the election, because the press will crucify him.

Who thinks they won’t want GB back ?

Yes I think that is quite possible, but I’m not saying full membership, just SM and CU.

Whitewavemark2

Yes I think that is quite possible, but I’m not saying full membership, just SM and CU.

Yes, that is more realistic now than rejoining, and I think it would make life a lot easier, not just for Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK, but also, possibly, for the EU. Roll on!!

I think it will be SM and CU eventually followed by some sort of "outer circle" arrangement.

but will always have to include FMOP - the EU will never give in on this, for anyone.

aggie

Who thinks they won’t want GB back ?

Well I certainly wouldn't, in their shoes!

Who would want to let someone who apparently hated them move back in just because they've discovered that standing on their own too feet turned out to be both harder and more expensive than expected?

It comes as little surprise to many of us that those who govern us, and those who influenced them, have proved themselves neither mature enough nor clever enough to go it alone, despite all their great claims and expectations of how great things would be once they - and the rest of us, whether we wanted it or not, were 'free'.

Now, again as expected, we are well and truly in the whatsit!

“Now, again as expected, we are well and truly in the whatsit!”

We certainly are on the South Coast.

Whitewavemark2

“Now, again as expected, we are well and truly in the whatsit!”

We certainly are on the South Coast.

I thought of that as I was typing

Didn’t vote leave say we wouldn’t be leaving the single market?

MayBee70

Didn’t vote leave say we wouldn’t be leaving the single market?

?. They said loads - 99% lies

rosie1959

Not very likely Conservatives won't do it and unless Labour changes its Leadership Starmer has ruled it out

Starmer has always made it quite clear that he will do whatever is best for the country and it’s people. He did so during the pandemic when he supported government policy because it was in the best interest of everyone. Johnson might have branded him Captain Hindsight but, to me he is Captain Sensible and, contrary to what Johnson has said about him he doesn’t play party politics when peoples lives and jobs are at stake.

MayBee70

Didn’t vote leave say we wouldn’t be leaving the single market?

Yes, many did. And Frost stated clearly that leaving the Single market and Customs Union would be a disaster for British Industry.

As did Truss

MayBee70

rosie1959

Not very likely Conservatives won't do it and unless Labour changes its Leadership Starmer has ruled it out

Starmer has always made it quite clear that he will do whatever is best for the country and it’s people. He did so during the pandemic when he supported government policy because it was in the best interest of everyone. Johnson might have branded him Captain Hindsight but, to me he is Captain Sensible and, contrary to what Johnson has said about him he doesn’t play party politics when peoples lives and jobs are at stake.

I have read a few reports that he has ruled out rejoining the Eu but I suppose he could do a U turn on this if he ever gets elected in a general election
Who knows politicians tend to change their minds

Ruling out rejoining the EU is different to joining the SM and CU

I think that EU leaders and many of their citizens could see how the vote was manipulated and were well aware of the people who were desperate to remain. The demonstrations had a lot of coverage.

Whitewavemark2

As did Truss

Yes.