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Trump and dementia - I'm lying awake at night worrying

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sarahcyn Sat 02-Mar-24 12:05:37

Is anyone else feeling that the end of the world is coming? This has been a dreadful week.

I am literally lying awake at night these days worrying about the world. Near the top of my list, maybe right at the top, is the dreadful possibility that a man with advancing dementia is going to be President of the USA.

www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-john-gartner-on-a-tale-of-two-brains-bidens-brain-is-aging-brain-is-dementing/

This is only one of a plethora of articles raising questions about Trump's mental state. The distinction between him and Biden is important and one which any of us who have known dementia cases would be aware of. The experts say that Biden shows signs of a normal ageing brain for an alert man of his age - forgetting the odd name. But Trump goes into flights of fancy - thinking his father was born in Germany when it was his grandfather who was born in Germany is a big red flag. And what about his pronouncement that whatever he does, if he is President, is legal?
My husband points out that actually the US constitution does allow for a President with dubious mental capacity to be removed from office. But what damage could he do before they plucked up the courage to do that?
I feel as though I am watching a slow-motion global car crash where madmen, real actual madmen, are taking charge. Putin invades Ukraine and threatens Nato. Trump and his shameful band of Republicans refuse aid to Ukraine. Europe gets drawn in to the war. Or Putin just takes over after even more bloodshed. And then decides to invade a few more Eastern European countries. Conscription all over Europe. Endless, Orwellian war. And eventually, in about 2038, my darling, sweet four year old grandson in Poland will die in a muddy, freezing foxhole on the Polish-Belarus border.
Everyone is distracted by Gaza. I am no fan of Netanyahu - he should bloody well go - but Israel, for all its faults, is a genuine democracy in a region dominated by theocracies and autocracies. I do wonder why the Arab states do not do more to help the Gaza civilians; and why George Galloway's hero Putin is egging them on.

The murder of Navalny has sent me into a downward spiral. Help, somebody give me something to feel positive about.
Sorry but I'm sitting here waiting for a plumber to sort out the bad smell in my rental property which is making my tenant, justifiably, very angry and I feel helpless and useless.

greenlady102 Sat 02-Mar-24 12:15:03

oh cheer up, we might be hit by a meteorite next week then none of this will happen!

maddyone Sat 02-Mar-24 12:15:29

The outlook is dire whatever: Trump or Biden? What a choice!
Gaza/Israel, there’s nothing we can do.
Maybe seek some counselling to help you cope, you’re obviously struggling.

sarahcyn Sat 02-Mar-24 12:19:01

@maddyone if the Republicans had any sense they would be choosing Nikki Haley. She's a typical American conservative in some irritating ways but she does have experience and a grasp of geopolitics. But can you imagine them choosing a woman, and a woman who isn't 1000% white at that!

nanna8 Sat 02-Mar-24 12:19:30

Choice between the devil and the deep blue sea, isn’t it ? Where have all the decent leaders gone? I think they are both vile and I would be ashamed to support either of them.

OldFrill Sat 02-Mar-24 13:50:41

Sounds like you are catastrophising, it's a mental health term so you may like to research it (if you already haven't). I sank into catastrophising after a series of traumatic deaths, l found temporarily removing myself from life to an oasis of calm sorted it. There are also medication, therapies etc.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 02-Mar-24 14:04:56

There is absolutely nothing to be gained by making yourself ill worrying about things which are totally outside your control beyond putting a cross on your voting slip. Worrying changes nothing.

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 14:08:12

greenlady102

oh cheer up, we might be hit by a meteorite next week then none of this will happen!

greenlady 😁

Don't meet trouble halfway, sarahcyn

sarahcyn Sat 02-Mar-24 14:23:37

Nothing like gransnet for delivering a short sharp "pull yourself together" style slap round the chops grin

Wheniwasyourage Sat 02-Mar-24 14:31:05

Germanshepherdsmum

There is absolutely nothing to be gained by making yourself ill worrying about things which are totally outside your control beyond putting a cross on your voting slip. Worrying changes nothing.

That's true, and all very well, but how many of us feel that to be the way to cope at 3am when worries are so much bigger than they are in the daytime? I have some things worrying me just now as well as the global issues you mention, sarahcyn, and they are very hard to deal with in the middle of the night, when rationalising doesn't work.

I hope you manage to work out a way to keep it all under control. You are not irrational, but as Germanshepherdsmum says, there is nothing we can do about some of it, especially in the middle of the night when we don't even have a vote in the American election. flowers

Fleur20 Sat 02-Mar-24 14:31:59

Please stop listening to the news, reading the papers etc.
Making yourself ill will not help the world or change anything.. only hurt you and your loved ones.

fancythat Sat 02-Mar-24 14:51:29

Germanshepherdsmum

There is absolutely nothing to be gained by making yourself ill worrying about things which are totally outside your control beyond putting a cross on your voting slip. Worrying changes nothing.

Absolutely.

Do not worry about tomorrow.

In the last few weeks, I have had several family members who could have died, all in different circumstances.
They have been "real" "problems".

And what Fleur20 says.
Your worrying only harms yourself.
Putting yourself in a downward spiral is not good for you or anyone, and is a problem to you and those around you.

Having said all that, I am a Christian. Which means I can lean on God.
I am happy to pray for you or for anyone, if you want me to.

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 14:59:16

fancythat I can sympathise with you; we have lost family members and many friends recently.

Worries are always worse in the middle of the night, yest, but there is nothing we can do about most of them.

The latest asteroid did hit Earth, greenlady but mostly burnt up in the Earth's atmosphere! Fragments of it hit Berlin. I always think I'd love to find a meteorite in the garden, as long as it didn't land on our heads. Or the house.

MaizieD Sat 02-Mar-24 15:06:41

sarahcyn

Nothing like gransnet for delivering a short sharp "pull yourself together" style slap round the chops grin

I'm with you, sarahcyn. I worry about the future, too, though it usually doesn't turn out to be quite as bad as feared.

I get very peed off about perfectly understandable and natural feelings being assigned to the 'mental health' banner and I'm always amazed at the lack of empathy that can be shown.

That's why I would never share a worry on Gnet and I don't do it much in real life, either. Being told to pull yourself together is most unhelpful and being told you have mental health problems is even worse...

petra Sat 02-Mar-24 15:16:11

You wonder why the Arab states don’t support the Palestinians
Many years ago when the PLO held sway in Gaza it was more or less a secular state.
Then they sold themselves to the Muslim Brotherhood. No Arab state will touch them.

petra Sat 02-Mar-24 15:16:47

But cheer up, springs on its way 😂

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 15:18:53

petra

But cheer up, springs on its way 😂

We had snow here today!

The poor daffodils are drooping.

Lauren59 Sat 02-Mar-24 15:19:11

I think Trump is such a habitual liar that he doesn’t know up from down or fact from fantasy. I’m not a religious person, but the idea of end times seems very real given the state of things here in the US and all over the world. Removing Trump from office would prove nearly impossible given the support the Republicans who seem to have learned to rely on fastasy rather than facts.

AlwaysSmiling Sat 02-Mar-24 15:27:32

I am a positive person and my thoughts are, why worry if there is nothing you can do about it. The world and it's governments are out of our control, just live each day to the best of your ability. If you can do something about it then for goodness sake, do it otherwise enjoy your lives while you can.

When my husband became ill I was his 24/7 carer, the specialists told us that he had three years to live, we decided to carry on enjoying our lives together, sitting in the garden etc. having little treats and making the best of a terrible situation. My husband lived for 5 years longer than the specialist said so we had eight years together every single day until he died 10 years ago.

Being pessimistic and worrying all the time does not change a thing, just get on with your lives and see what tomorrow brings.

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 15:34:15

Endless, Orwellian war. And eventually, in about 2038, my darling, sweet four year old grandson in Poland will die in a muddy, freezing foxhole on the Polish-Belarus border.

If you are so upset that that is worrying you, sarahcyn, I think perhaps you do need some professional help.

What is happening now in Ukraine is dreadful but I think we all hope that the present person in charge of the murderous regime will be dead by 2038, if not a lot sooner.
Many of us worry about things which may never happen but then have to temper it with a little realism.

Cillafan Sat 02-Mar-24 15:36:24

Donald Trump is a good man, he knows what's right and what's wrong, hope he is elected potus, things will get done, he is not afraid of anything or anyone, defender of the free world

fancythat Sat 02-Mar-24 15:37:20

I can sympathise with you; we have lost family members and many friends recently.

Sorry to hear that Callistemon21

Syracute Sat 02-Mar-24 15:38:29

maddyone

The outlook is dire whatever: Trump or Biden? What a choice!
Gaza/Israel, there’s nothing we can do.
Maybe seek some counselling to help you cope, you’re obviously struggling.

Biden has been a very capable president with an excellent team behind him . He is much more physically fit than Trump . He is a seasoned politician . Trump is a failed businessman who is fighting many plausible criminal convictions . Trump supporters are loud and obvious where Biden supporters are low key . I don’t consider Trump a real threat .

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 15:39:28

fancythat

^I can sympathise with you; we have lost family members and many friends recently.^

Sorry to hear that Callistemon21

Thanks *fancythat
and there I am saying we hope someone else might be dead soon! So many good people have gone and Putin is still here on earth.

sodapop Sat 02-Mar-24 16:12:03

I'm sorry you feel so overwhelmed sarahcyn there are so many bad things happening in the world I agree. You do seem to be overly anxious though maybe you need to talk through your anxieties with a professional or speak to your doctor.
Try not to worry 24/7 set aside a time for trying to sort your anxieties, those you can do something about and others which we can only pray will be resolved positively. There are good things happening all around us if we take time to find them, sadly they are not newsworthy. I know we all try to do our bit either with money or time so all those small gestures add up to a lot of help. Take care of yourself.