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Frozen Pensioners

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PierreMaurice Sat 31-Mar-12 12:39:15

Help support those half a million British state pensioners who happen to live in certain, mainly Commonwealth countries who have their pensions frozen at the rate at which they are first paid. They paid into the National Insurance Fund under exactly the same rules as apply to those 12.5 million pensioners who receive annual upratings to their pensions.

bit.ly/BritPensions

Peter Morris
President
British Australian Pensioner Association (BAPA)

Annobel Sat 31-Mar-12 12:55:26

Done that.

glammanana Sat 31-Mar-12 13:37:10

All done

wotsamashedupjingl Sat 31-Mar-12 14:10:23

But the cost of living might be different in the countries they have chosen to live in. They are getting what they paid for.

wotsamashedupjingl Sat 31-Mar-12 14:24:50

Do people who now live in Australia, but are in receipt of UK retirement pension, still pay tax to the UK government?

We have to.

ninnynanny Sat 31-Mar-12 15:15:55

I think it should be frozen. They have chosen to leave the UK for one reason or another for a better life abroad, we are having to wait longer to get our pensions here and pay high tax and vat, as my mother used to say you can't have it all ways.

glammanana Sat 31-Mar-12 16:13:43

wotsa pensions paid to claimants in Aus/NZ and any private pensions they have paid into I think? are taxed at sourse here and if these people have paid into our system for the required amount of years or longer they are entitled to any increase I think just because they have moved another part of the world does not stop them paying into the UK system where necessary,I am paying tax on my private pensions and so is mr glamma and we would not expect it to stop if we moved abroad again,but I feel we would be entitled to any increase that became available after over 50yrs of taxation in mr glamma's case and 45yrs in mine.

Greatnan Sat 31-Mar-12 16:48:27

When you pay tax and NI throughout your working life in the UK, you have entered into a contract with the government that in return for your contributions you will receive a state pension. Why should the state then be able to dictate where you should live?
I do pay tax at source on my two UK government pensions Teachers and Civil Service) but at the moment my state retirement pension is taxed by the French government. This holds for all EU countries. Non-British EU pensioners living in Britain will pay UK tax on their state retirement pension but any pensions they have by virtue of employment by a member state will be taxed at source. This is a reciprocal agreement. What we are asking for is that Britain enters into a reciprocal agreement with Commonwealth countries.
Not everybody moved abroad just to get a better life, but even if we do, is there not a smidgen of envy in some people's attitude? I can assure you that emigrants often face just the same problems as people who remain in Britain and they have to pay for food, housing, health, fuel,insurance, etc. etc. If they remain on a frozen pension for ten years or more, how is it suggested that they support themselves?
A friend of mine had to move to Australia because her daughter developed MS and could not cope with her three young children - should she be penalised for going out to help?

glammanana Sat 31-Mar-12 17:00:10

Thanks for that greatnan I was just not sure of the facts now I remember the recipocal agreement.

Possiejim Wed 04-Mar-15 12:19:15

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