What would YOU do?

It's not worth this.

Greatnan, If there is a disagreement between two people, how can there not be two sides to the story and how on earth can my comment be unfair?

Since when has keeping an open mind been wrong?

I have removed myself from facebook today - it is such a pain getting so many emails from them when I hardly ever use facebook - I needed to have it ages ago for work. There are far better ways of communicating with people.

J08. Your comment was removed. I have noticed that many of your comments have been removed. They have been removed for breaking the guidelines.

It is wise to learn from past errors and refrain from making comments which cause distress to people. And shouting doesn't make anything correct.

Merlotgran - some of us have not had any disagreement with our children - they have simply cut us out of their lives for some perceived offence. It takes two to disagree and I have never done or said anything to hurt my daughter. She suffers from paranoid delusions brought on by ten years abuse of codeine and painkillers since she was badly damaged by an incompetent surgeon. I have spent years of my retirement fighting the MDU to get her fair damages, sold my house to help her and had to pay rent for five years, left my lovely life in France to care for her and her children, tried to keep her business going when she was in hospital........where in this do you think I have been at fault?
It is probably not wise to make sweeping generalisations when you don't know the full facts.

I wasn't commenting on rights or wrongs, Greatnan and I know you have suffered a lot of pain over the breakdown of your relationship with your daughter. I wasn't making a sweeping generalisation because there just might be another side to the OP's situation.

And I consider it wise to keep an open mind if you don't know the full facts.

I've been thinking, (!) and I realise that the reason Gransnet and I would always be at odds is the false sincerity behind it.

Gransnet is, of course, a business like any other and as such it needs, and wants, to make money. It needs a high number of signed up posters simply so that it can give that number to potential advertisers. The fact that only a relatively small number of posters actually post anything is neither here nor there. The number of official members is the important thing. And if any gransnetter, no matter how much they might have, or might not have, contributed to the forums, steps out of line and thereby threatens the business side of things, that person has to be stamped on. Heavily.

I don't like that. I appreciate it is the way of the world but still.... I don't like it.

I think it is a shame that Age UK has joined its name to this idea.

Are you seriously suggesting that the reason why both of your posts above (and many others) were deleted, is because this site is a business?

To repeat, it was because they broke the guidelines, guidelines which are there for all to read.

There's nothing wrong with running a business, and there's nothing wrong with making a profit, and there's nothing wrong with providing employment.

But there is something wrong with posting personal hurtful comments.

And those comments were very hurtful.

No. I'm not talking about the thread. Justt the emails gransnet is fond of sending out.

No idea what these are. Perhaps you could copy and paste.

I doubt very much if my comment was genuinely hurtful.

Can't be bothered. Going back to real life.

How can you know? If those comments had been written by someone else and directed at you, the comments would still be perceived as hurtful. Indeed the OP herself described how she felt. Only someone with hide of a rhinoceros would fail to be hurt.

Yes it was ,no question about it.

Bags and Lady blue this week and it's only Wednesday.Well done - come on Gagagran - how come you aren't criticising people today for being nasty to JO - you couldn't get at me quick enough yesterday!!

Odd, I don't get routine emails from GNHQ and nor, I suspect, do many other people. Has it ever occurred to you, jingle, that your constant deletions might actually have something to do with the unpleasant things you sometimes say? Or do you think people are picking on you without any justification? You have been allowed to get away with telling people , including me, to fuck off, which would have got some people banned. You have been given a great deal of leeway but there must surely come a time when even your little band of loyal supporters has had enough and can no longer defend you.

I have only just got round to reading this thread and, frankly, I wish I hadn't bothered. (Nothing to do with you Ladyblue). I started to make a comment and then realised that it would be completely pointless – as is becoming increasingly common on almost all the forums.

Absent - please keep posting - we need your common sense views.

I've just emailed GN suggesting that they must have planted JO because nothing else explains why she gets away with so much and has done for so long. The halcyon days when she was on holiday - sighs- and the sickening thread asking where she was and welcoming her back - FFS. Sorry absent to add to all the awfulness but some of us are just bloody fed up with her and are saying so. It is interesting this time that she's not getting her usual supporters speaking up for her

Bluebell, I think you are the only poster who could rival J08 in the deleted posts stakes, so I don't think you've got any reason to take the moral high ground.

As I said yesterday, you bluebell aren't slow to be sarcastic and nasty when it suits uou.

Why do some posters deliberately set out to cause dissent, or distress to this OP. Merlotgran, I don't agree with you that there are two sides to every story. I found your 'flouncing off' comment provocative and potentially hurtful to the OP. I also fully support the comments made by Greatnan and MiceElf.

So you're going back to 'real life', are you, J08? Are you implying that the OP was not writing about her real life? If that is the intention, I'm suggesting that this is adding insult to injury and perhaps you ought to think very hard about your responses to posters in distress.

WTF is Bluebottle on about now? I've just backtracked through this thread and can't see anything by Gagagran.