Well ladies, what I fail to understand is why, if you are so affronted with the posts on the COOTL, threads why you bother to read them .
There is NO air of exclusion Whenim; perhaps those who feel excluded exclude themselves because of their insensitivity. You imply that we are not sensible women, well we are. Sensible women in pain. You are fortunate that your exclusion from your gc life was temporary; we are not so fortunate as our exclusion in on going. We are not self pitying, we are selfhelping.
So ladies, if you dislike the COOTL threads so much, stick to this one. If this thread helps all of you that's great; let our thread help all of us.
And finally Tigertiger "If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always got " doesn't always apply in the real world". Apologies for wallowing in my own self pity but I always loved my son and got love in return; I still love my son, but now get nothing.
So yes, Celebgran was right; leave us alone, or, as Thumper said in Disney's 'Bambi', "if you can't say something nice, the don't say nothing at all"