DD huge family take priority

Mine is a daughter, not a son but we still seem to be at the back of the queue these days I would still advise say nowt though. My DD accused me of being 'up my own bum' when I asked why she went on outings with her friends and their mums and I was the only one not invited.

I am beginning to think I am very lucky to have produced only daughters! But, having said that, they do seem to get on fine with their MILs who have a fair share of time with the GC.

Shoreham - the only advice I can give you is to say nowt! - it will open up a much bigger can of worms. I can understand how you are feeling and it is very hard; but least said and all that - your turn will come one way or another, but not if relations become soured.

Not shame on you at all Kiora. I would feel the same. I think a lot of us feel we are at the back of the queue. Unfortunately I didn't keep my mouth shut once. It made matters worse, so I keep it zipped now, although at times I am bursting with annoyance.

Not shame on you at all kiora. Not at all sure I could keep my mouth shut.

It's really hard isn't it shoreham. I hate the feeling that I get over this sort of stuff. I always feel as if we come at the end of the queue. My DiL, my son took her farther and mother out for a meal yesterday for Father's Day. We weren't invited. It rather sticks in my craw that it's my sons money that pays for all this stuff. The big green monster strikes again. But I keep my big mouth shut. I bought him up to be responsible and he is. He puts his wife and children first. That's how it should be. But I don't like it. Not one bit. They are not horrible to us. She can be very sweet and generous just not as generous as she is with her own family. shame on me

You say you saw GC for 30 minutes on day 2, but don't say how long ago that was. Weeks? Months? Do you have a friendly relationship with your DiL's extended family?

Wise words roses!

Hello shoreham do you mean [daughter-in-law] DIL rather than DD [dear daughter?] If so, I am afraid that Mother-in-law always takes a back seat to the other Mother, it's just the way it is. Depends how your son reacts to it and tries to arrange things.As a MIL I never drop in, but always arrange with DIL beforehand.I am aware that her family probably do drop in , but your own Mum is different.I think as the grandchildren grow older it will become easier to arrange things, maybe have them stay over with you for a break. Try not to let it become a sore point.