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AIBU to think this is bonkers?

(106 Posts)
Pittcity Mon 13-Apr-15 11:43:32

65 year old pregnant with quadruplets!!

janeainsworth Mon 13-Apr-15 11:47:45

No, YANBU, and you really do have to question the ethics of the doctors who facilitated this.
It's actually not all about a woman's choice without question - other people have to be considered too.

AshTree Mon 13-Apr-15 12:02:46

It is utterly indefensible, should never have been allowed. And apart from the rights and wrongs of it, can you imagine having even ONE baby at 65? The woman must be out of her mind shock

annsixty Mon 13-Apr-15 12:04:42

What is the saying " just because you can doesn't mean you should ". Selfish to the core.

janerowena Mon 13-Apr-15 12:06:01

I hope she has a good nanny! I think she's bonkers. I hope she is very, very fit.

jo1book Mon 13-Apr-15 12:11:13


Ana Mon 13-Apr-15 12:12:18

She already has 13 childen, the youngest of whom is only 10!
She 'assumes' she will stay fit and healthy...well, good luck with that.

Mishap Mon 13-Apr-15 12:14:47

A misuse of scientific advances.

Coolgran65 Mon 13-Apr-15 12:34:04

Not wise !!!

And why would a doctor/clinic facilitate this for a woman who already has so many children?

thatbags Mon 13-Apr-15 12:42:50

I also think she's bonkers but I kind of understand the experimental science side too in pushing the boundaries of human reproductive ability to the extreme. So long as she has not been coerced into doing something she doesn't want to do, I don't think the scientists/doctors are in the wrong.

Haven't seen how far on in the pregnancy she is but I'd imagine the risks are quite high of miscarriage of some or all of the foetuses.

thatbags Mon 13-Apr-15 12:44:10

Just seen she is half way through the pregnancy. Well, good luck to her and the babies.

loopylou Mon 13-Apr-15 12:48:14

Hang on, she has 13 already?!
Must be completely barmy, 17 children at 65.......... I assume she can support them all but morally very questionable in my opinion.

Gagagran Mon 13-Apr-15 12:51:57

I think her eldest is in his 40s so presumably some of the others are adults too. I think it is unethical on the part of the medics to facilitate this crazy pregnancy.

thatbags Mon 13-Apr-15 12:52:26

Maybe she likes being a baby machine. If she's 65 now and her youngest child is ten, she was 55 when she had him/her. Even that's pushing the edges a bit.

Sounds as if some of the older children will be old enough to look after the wee ones if necessary. Perhaps they've already agreed to do that.

Or perhaps they've run a mile at the suggestion.

Nelliemoser Mon 13-Apr-15 13:05:36

Greedy comes to my mind.

I agree with JaneA about the Dr's needing to take some responsibilty if they feel they might cause medical harm to the welfare of the babies.

Riverwalk Mon 13-Apr-15 13:05:37

I'm all for pushing scientific boundaries and support IVF, surrogacy, stem-cell research, and even cloning, but this is pure indulgence and serves no scientific purpose.

It's not as though she hasn't experienced childbirth and deserved a chance at motherhood!

It might be fun for her but what about the children?

She seems rather a sad case, like 'Octo mum' in California, who already had many children then gave birth to eight.

The doctors in these cases have a lot to answer for and should face professional/legal censure.

Mishap Mon 13-Apr-15 13:14:04

She is a teacher and must be clocking up a lot of maternity leave and pay - I believe the German benefits system is quite generous.

sunseeker Mon 13-Apr-15 13:27:22

This is selfish. She may be fit and well now but who knows how she will be in 5 years time. My fit and healthy friend recently had a heart attack (which she fortunately survived) but who knows what strain this pregnancy and birth will put on her heart. How many grandparents on here who dearly love their grandchildren but are happy to hand them back to their parents at the end of a day - unless she can afford a nanny she won't be able to do that. She is thinking only of her own wants and not the welfare of the children

Teetime Mon 13-Apr-15 13:54:01

OMG I have had to have a lie down just thinking how awful that would be if it were me- and worse for the child. I have no patience at all and am tired all the time at 62. My mother had my brother at 48 and she felt she was far too old then!! yes I know that is quite normal now.

loopylou Mon 13-Apr-15 13:56:19

At 61 the thought of just one would finish me off....I can't even begin to imagine being 75 with a 14 year old............

ohdear Mon 13-Apr-15 13:56:23

I too think she is mad!! But what about the many men who become dads at this age--or older? I think that they are irresponsible as well, but that doesn't seem to matter as much. There is a lot of evidence to show that older fathers have children with higher risk of things like autism and mental health problems. There has not been a great deal of research into parental age as opposed to maternal age but the evidence is strong and growing.

There seems to be a lot of reasons why we are young when we have children!

kittylester Mon 13-Apr-15 14:15:59

I'm 66, we've just had 4 under 4s here all week and I'm completely knackered tired out and both Mums were here to help too! confused

loopylou Mon 13-Apr-15 14:31:55

Regarding older dads, a neighbour's brother (59) has remarried and has a baby girl....and isn't coping well with sleepless nights! His 35 and 39 year old children think he's having a mid-life crisis, no sympathy whatsoever....

KatyK Mon 13-Apr-15 14:43:13

Peter Stringfellow is about to become a dad again at the age of 74. His oldest son is 51 confused

janeainsworth Mon 13-Apr-15 14:43:40

Bags You said
" So long as she has not been coerced into doing something she doesn't want to do, I don't think the scientists/doctors are in the wrong."

I must admit that the idea of this woman being coerced into anything, hadn't crossed my mind.
Doctors coercing patients into experimental treatment, especially when there is absolutely no possible therapeutic value to that patient, is chilling, and categorically unethical.

The scenario I imagined was that the woman coerced the doctors into providing treatment. Even if 'informed consent' with regard to this particular patient has been obtained, there are still wider societal issues to be considered and I think a line has been crossed here which makes this unethical too.