AIBU to think this is bonkers?

In order to fully discuss the issue.

I think that because minibags is happy about you being an older mum, is part of the reason for your comments here?

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Nope.

The reason for my comments here is that I want to discuss the issue.

jess, of course I wouldn't like the scenario you paint, but I wouldn't like a scenario when it was nobody's 'fault' that there weren't enough beds, medicines, etc either.

If this German woman is paying for her treatment I don't think we've any right to complain. I think she's bonkers too but I think lots of people do lots of bonkers things.

Do we know if she's paying?

BTW, soon, the point about my being older than some of Minibags's peers is really about their having younger grans! Of which state of affairs I neither approve nor disapprove; I just accept it.

I don't know, ana. I did say 'if'.

Apparently she is having the babies because her 9 year old wanted a little brother or sister! Which makes it even more bonkers. If the child changes its mind when these babies are born and doesn't want them, will she give them away? She needs to learn how to say"No".

An American psychologist friend of mine once said to me that 'people do weird sh.. all the time.' This seems to be one of those instances.

Katek, that puts my own feelings pretty well, so thanks

I honestly feel this woman has been self indulgent. (dons tin hat). bags, many people have a higher urge to drink, take drugs or indulge in other risk taking behaviours. I sympathise with them and admire those who take steps to reign in their excesses. I feel that's what this woman would have been well advised to do.

I think "self-indulgent" about sums it up.

She is allowed to be self-indulgent on her own behalf but not on behalf of innocent children.

Does anyone know how that other 60+ year old (Italian?) mum and her baby are doing?

She may not be allowed, mishap, but she's doing it anyway. So much for the gransnet dictats. There seems to be a consensus that they are going to be "poor innocents". Isn't it just possible that they will be happy and healthy and have a good mum? I do hope so.

I hope that too; but it seems that the odds are stacked against them. The mother is also placing herself at risk, which with lots of other young children needing her care is, to my mind, irresponsible. Not a dictat - an opinion!

Yup we don't know whether she is paying - but even if she is paying for the fertility treatment there is still the cost the birth and of 4 babies probably occupying incubators and needing expensive specialist care. (Depending on how premature - multiple birth like this unlikely to go to term)
You would have to be pretty well off to fund that - cost of an elective private C section for one baby anyone? Several thousand for sure.

I used the word light-heartedly, mishap.

I know!

Good

I did think that I had read that she dies, but I could be wrong on that.

While googling for it, I discovered this
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1286492/Childless-woman-66-oldest-world-birth-triplets-IVF-treatment.html

died not dies
I will further google

Well, she wasn't dead yesterday.

www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/15/spanish-woman-ivf-dies

Crumbs, this search is not going well.

Did you mean this woman, soon?

www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/15/spanish-woman-ivf-dies

Snap!

Good, because I cant find the Italian woman Ana.