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Why is GN being used as a whipping post for Corbyn?

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OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 07:25:05

Has anyone counted the number of threads currently active which are purely Anti-Jeremy Corbyn?

This is NOT a thread about a thread, but about the principle of being allowed to use this forum in a way which is not, surely, acceptable.

Does anyone else agree that this is heading beyond free speech and political debate and diversity, and has now entered the realms of something else?

Perhaps GNHQ would like to address this query too?

Nonnie Tue 04-Sept-18 10:18:32

I think you must be in the minority OldMeg because if a subject is unpopular no one posts on it. Some of us simply avoid the posts we don't like because it is a forum for everyone to express their views as they wish. It is not up to any of us to object to what others want to post or read.

God forbid that anyone polices the number of posts on any subject at all.

Anniebach Tue 04-Sept-18 10:10:56

May I defend myself please.

For me racism is vile, I have been subjected to it just by dating a black S.A. It was cruel. I will always speak out against it and I posted a thread on Corbyn and Anti Semitism .

I started a thread on Frank Field because I believed as this was breaking news it would be of interest on the politics forum. He is a well respect MP .

Sunday, I started a thread because a UNITE union spokeswoman had given an interview, this had nothing to do with Frank Field or racism.

threads on Mrs May’s dancing, Mrs May and Brexit, Mrs May ‘in trouble’ is acceptable. In my opinion racism in this country and in a political party is frightening so I will not a
apologise for these threads, if they anger Corbyn supporters surely ignore them and me not start this thread about my posts. I do now feel bullied .

Jalima1108 Tue 04-Sept-18 10:03:56

X post Chewbacca (although there is a time difference it took me ages to type and post).

I agree with your post.

Jalima1108 Tue 04-Sept-18 10:01:49

I can only see two threads in which the OP relates to Corbyn, one of those being about Frank Field. Sorry - three threads, the third being this one.

At one time there were several threads running simultaneously about Trump.
so there is nothing irrational about feelings for him, whereas poor old J.C. is merely in opposition.

Poor old JC is in fact a contentious figure and, as many people would love to see a Labour government in power again to right the wrongs which they can see happening, they do not think this will happen whilst he remains leader.
I don't think that is excessive and everyone is entitled to express their opinions on anything - especially politicians - as long as they remain within the guidelines.

Some may see Mary Berry as a contentious figure (who needs cakes with the obesity crisis?) but she will probably never be leader of a political party.

I can see your point OldMeg but sometimes all the tub-thumping and repetitive rhetoric about Brexit becomes boring too as we can do little about the outcome - so I just skip some of the posts.

I wouldn't want even more Gnetters to be driven off because others don't like what they post.

Chewbacca Tue 04-Sept-18 09:53:50

Does that make sense?

No, not really,*OldMeg*. Personally, I can't be doing with Corbyn; distrust and dislike him intensely, but I feel pretty much the same way about May as well, so my dislike and distrust is evenly balanced! But you could just as easily have asked why there are so many threads opened about Brexit, couldn't you? They are often started by the same people; they don't offer any new information; they don't resolve anything; its just people discussing a topic that they feel strongly about and want to discuss it further. I don't think that they have any hidden agenda either; they just want to discuss the subject. And Corbyn is as divisive as Trump to many people and therefore worthy of discussion as each new blunder/faux pas/revelation comes to the public's attention.

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 09:41:40

Fair enough Natasha

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 09:40:31

I think Chewbacca that the ‘something else’ is simply that there is a real fear and/of hatred of Jeremy Corbyn. I hesitate to say irrational because I think people have their reasons, which I must respect, but I can’t think of anyone else, with the obvious example of Trump, who excites such emotions.

And Trump is actually in power and can do real harm, so there is nothing irrational about feelings for him, whereas poor old J.C. is merely in opposition.

Does that make sense?

NatashaGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 04-Sept-18 09:40:14

Hi all,

We don't restrict the number of political threads on a particular subject unless they breach our guidelines.

Hope this clears things up smile

Chewbacca Tue 04-Sept-18 09:25:43

Would this be considered normal or bordering on something else?

Such as? conspiracy theories alive and kicking?

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 09:24:40

Annie if all the three anti-Corbyn threads presently active have been started by you (and I haven’t said they were or indeed checked that out) then that is not actually the point.

The point is that whosoever has started such threads then it reeks of overkill. I have made the point that if there were three threads knocking Mary Berry as an example, then that would raise eyebrows.

Yes, politicians are fair game, I agree, but it’s not so much the individual as the sheer number. I get a bit like that when there’s another ‘I hate my MiL’ thread ot similar, but even those are by different people, usually I think.

TerriBull Tue 04-Sept-18 09:06:38

Well GN threads reflect what's in the news, which is awash with articles about both the leaders of the main parties, the controversial issues that pertain to them and other high profile MPs. Although Mary Berry may divide opinions, I don't think making a comparison between a tv cookery personality and the leader of the opposition is a good one.

As for threads about family dynamics, they too run and run and will continue to do so because families occupy so much of our time, particularly when things go wrong.

Most of the threads reflect the nature of GN, although to be fair to oldMeg, maybe over on MN possibly there aren't as many threads about JC.

Jane10 Tue 04-Sept-18 09:06:12

I agree Greta8!

Anniebach Tue 04-Sept-18 08:59:50

Greta, this thread is about me not the politics of Corbyn ?

Anniebach Tue 04-Sept-18 08:58:30

I think racism is an important topic. More important than Mrs May’s attempt at dancing or Jacob Rees Mogg’s nanny.

Elegran Tue 04-Sept-18 08:55:33

I don't think there are any more anti-Corbyn posts or threads than there are pro-Corbyn ones (or pro-Corbynism ones) There is a lot going on in politics and he is a leading figure, so there is bound to be a lot of comment on him, both for and against. Perhaps the amount of attention he gets is an indication of just how beige our recent Labour leaders and their policies have been in comparison?

Greta8 Tue 04-Sept-18 08:52:44

Obviously not the grans on gransnet, but I think elsewhere the powers that be see the Labour party as a threat for their vested interests. God forbid we might actually get a government who actually wants to govern on behalf of everyone. My opinion is that the whole anti-Semitism thing is deliberately being whipped up in a bid to destabilise the Labour party and try to make them look unelectable.

Grandmashe43 Tue 04-Sept-18 08:46:13

Seems strange that on a political thread, one of the main players JC, should not be discussed.

Anniebach Tue 04-Sept-18 08:34:42

Allow me to explain. I started a thread about Anti Semitism in the Labour Party. I started a thread about Frank Field who is a labour MP. I see this as no difference to threads on Theresa May, Jacob Rees Mogg and Brexit.

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 08:33:20

Routine calls! I’ll wait the email from GN telling me off again ?

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 08:31:05

Why should I do your reading for you Alima?

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 08:29:01

PS Free speech works both ways......just saying!

Alima Tue 04-Sept-18 08:26:08

Must admit I have never seen it that way OM. The reverse if anything. Perhaps you could provide the data required by us to make a considered contribution. I certainly couldn’t be arsed to do it.

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 08:25:15

I mentioned no names! But I think if this was a business venture I might have referred it to the Monopolies Commission!

OldMeg Tue 04-Sept-18 08:22:51

Obviously MI5 loopyloo

Kitty I wasn’t implying that you weren’t a ‘thinking’ gran, perish the thought!, just that you didn’t express the same sentiment (ie. ‘same old’ ‘let them just witter on’ ‘no one really listening’) sort of reply.

Those two replies made me realise I’m overthinking this.

Anniebach Tue 04-Sept-18 08:20:22

No Maw, i do not lack original thinking and I will continue to post my views as others post theirs. It is not a case of same old, same old.

OldMeg complaining about a member posting their opinions , suggesting HQ get involved seems very much like an attempt to curb free speech.