Is Jeremy Corbyn holding the Labour back?

I thought Day6 your post was great

Day6 posted at 2:10am in the morning what I would describe as a rant on in this thread. At the beginning of the post, that person named me as the object of the post.

Therefore, I responded to that post in terms of its content and the time it was posted. I was unaware of Day6 health problems and therefore responded in kind to what I would consider to be a direct text attack on me.

Perhaps it would be better if forum members with problems did not post attacks on others if they do not wish to receive posts returned in kind.

At the beginning of the post, that person named me as the object of the post.

Hmm. Grandad, you exclaimed how wonderfully attended the Labour Party Conference was, and in reply, and with no nastiness to you, I invented a little scenario.

Like many, many others, I am no fan of present day Labour. (I come from a working class background too and my father and family always felt it was the party which represented our interests. It no longer does.)

I think you took umbrage at that - as you do with anyone who differs with you regarding Corbyn and co. You can defend them of course, given we tend to be politically partisan on this forum. That is understandable.

However, you tend to attack posters, and not their posts. People will reply in kind.

Don't play the injured party when attacking others with snide remarks is your stock-in-trade.

Come off the orange grandad 1943, you were most offensive, what has the time of a post to do with the contents of the post ? How can you try to defend bringing up the time of the post? Best not to try , there is no defence or excuse. You do get rattled if anything is said against your hero, calm down my dear man , calm down

Perhaps is would be better if forum members who had an unhealthy obsession with the subject of the thread learned some manners

Let ‘s face it Grandad it was an ill-chosen remark both to and about Day6
How about a simple apology?

No apology. Day6 made an unprovoked written attack on me and received a similar post in return.

Trying to play the sympathy card later simply does not wash with me. As I stated, if Day6 has health problems then that I can sympathise with. However, in that situation, it would be far wiser to not attack others by name on this forum if a response in kind is to be so upsetting to that person.

lets move on, we are rather silly we expect an apology from a poster who described the Aberfan disaster as an ‘event’ !

As a life long labour supporter I left the party when Jeremy was voted into power. He’s a disaster for labour and if ever he became pm with that appaling shadow cabinet god Forbid.

The Tories are appaling and Lib Dem’s a joke.

I am 54 and I can’t renenber a more appaling set of politicians

I'm trying hard but neither can I, not all at the same time, on the other hand it is said we get the politicians we deserve.

Yes, unfortunately the Lib Dems have become a joke, especially under Vince Cable.
It will be difficult to choose who to vote for ( not that an election is due until 2022) but since Corbyn needs to be kept out of power ( can anyone really imagine the plonker as PM) then it has to be the Conservatives.
There could be big changearounds in both the Cabinet and the Shadow Cabinet before then though.

" ( can anyone really imagine the plonker as PM) then it has to be the Conservatives. "

Yes I can imagine that , and a great many other people can too, thank goodness.
Over the last 10 years the Conservatives have damaged the NHS to the point where they intend to sell it to the US Insurers , cut back the welfare system to the point where people have died before getting the help they needed, and are now trying to destroy our economy through Brexit with no idea about what will follow.
It has to be anyone BUT the conservatives

There isn’t anyone Yggdrasil

Yes I agree with you yggdrasil, and unlike most posters I think Jeremy Corbyn will be Prime Minister. The Labour Party have some sensible and humanitarian policies, admittedly some are aspirational, but that is true of any party in opposition. It will not be us oldies but the younger ones who will be responsible for the future of our country, and there are plenty up and coming in the Labour Party to take over Jeremy's reins when he drops off the perch!

I wouldn’t be surprised if Corbyn got the keys of No 10 and in no way surprised with the disaster which will follow . Communism doesn’t work.

Always voted Labour but wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole now. It’s not only Corbyn but his cohorts I suspect are using him as a puppet. Too left, too extreme. Would bankrupt the countrywith their largess which increases as they think of new offers to the voting public. These are signs of desperation not understanding.

Annie, you are still confounding Communism with Democratic Socialism. The difference has been explained many times here, and it is usually only the right-wing who can't understand the difference (or don't want to).

yggdrasil , explained here by Corbyn supporters , I certaintly understand the difference and it is not what the far left claim.

annie "it is not what the far left claim" could you elaborate, please/

Certaintly humpty, the diference between communism and democratic socialism has been explained here by Corbyn supporters, Corbyn supports communist ideals, has communist ideals, his followers are not going to admit this so use ‘social democracy ‘ as a cover.

There's an explanation for you. If Corbyn or his supporters say it, it's communism. Social democracy is a cover story!
Incredible bit of political analysis!

I was spot on

trisher I cannot decide whether some gullible people have been brainwashed by all this ‘communist’ gumf put about by the Tory media or whether there it is a deliberate movement to undermine labour by taking their messages onto social media.

I don't know OldMeg it seems some people (even those who really should know better) are being sold this communist drivel. Although I think younger people are a great deal more objective about things.

Many younger people have no clue about Communism.
Comrade Corbyn does though, he’s a Marxist, as is McDonnell.
Gullible people are those who think Corbyn is just a mild mannered lefty.