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tanith Tue 11-Dec-18 13:27:46

I have just received 2 more cards addressed to me by my Christian name only no surname. I was recently widowed and it seems that at least four people have stopped addressing me by my married name and I don’t understand.

One friend explained that she ‘forgot’ my surname, I was married 23 yrs and we’ve exchanged cards, the whole time how could she forget?
I’m finding it bloody annoying and upsetting to be honest I haven’t suddenly lost my surname because I’m widowed.

Got that off my chest ? and breathe.

GabriellaG54 Wed 12-Dec-18 13:05:51

What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

PECS Wed 12-Dec-18 13:12:58

My DH and I have different second names …. I do not mind being Mrs DH but DH not always happy to be Mr PECS!

I often address cards by first name only for couples if I am unsure of second name of a partner who I know less well!

Craftycat Wed 12-Dec-18 13:17:37

My best friend insists on sending me birthday cards with my my husband's initial & our surname. It feels like being his chattel- I've been moaning about it for about 4o years but she insists it is 'correct'!

ExaltedWombat Wed 12-Dec-18 13:36:38

Sorry about your loss. I can absolutely guarantee that none of your friends and acquaintances are doing this to annoy you, or with any thought of erasing your late husband. Some of them seem unsure of the 'correct' way to address a widow. Accept that they have, at least, attempted to find a solution, even if it isn't the one you prefer. So please don't waste energy getting upset over it. I suggest you sign YOUR Christmas cards with the name you prefer. They'll (mostly) catch on for next year. Please don't hate the few that don't!

Daisyboots Wed 12-Dec-18 13:40:18

Anniebach although in Portugal the majority of women keep their maiden name their surname then forms part of their childrens name. So if your surname were Santos your childs name would be say Ana Maria then your surname Santos then their fathers surname say Pedrosa. So she would be Ana Maria Santos Pedrosa. When at the the doctors or hospital your whole name is called and they can be a lot more complicated than my example.

sarahellenwhitney Wed 12-Dec-18 13:49:22

tanith. I would not go out of your way to say anything, unless it upsets you. I choose to keep my married name and if any one wishes to refer to me in any other way, frequently seen on my mail as The Occupant, I would not let it bother me.

grand1 Wed 12-Dec-18 14:12:16

I'm so sorry for the loss of your husband. My heart goes out to you this Christmas.

It seems so many aren't being taught proper etiquette these days or even merely that such a thing exists. My first thought is that perhaps they're trying to not be offensive or give you painful reminders of your loss (as though you'd forget). It is still proper etiquette to address the widow as Mrs. (surname). It is also proper to address the widow using her first name then surname. (i.e., Mrs. Jane Doe instead of Mrs. John Doe) however, either is acceptable.

Pardon my being forward. I apologize in advance if I'm out of line in offering such advice but I am only doing so because my heart goes out to you. My daughter's mother in law had her first Christmas without her dear husband last year. He was a good man and we were saddened by his loss. I also suffered a loss a few Christmases ago of one of my children. I was devastated and it didn't hit me until the day after Thanksgiving (I'm American) when my husband decided to pull out Christmas decorations. Traditionally, my daughter and I did Christmas together (tree, decorations, shopping for presents, etc). So when he did that, I just died inside. I couldn't bring myself to help him. My sadness was so profound, I sought counseling. I still had two sons in my home and I was really struggling. When we put up the tree, I couldn't be enticed to care about it. I tried to be cheerful for them and let them decorate the tree. Of course, as kids are prone to do, they stuck all the ornaments in one spot on the tree and I couldn't have cared less that year what the tree looked like. I just told them they did a stupendous job and thanked them and left it as it was. They were proud of themselves and that's what mattered.

My therapist said that it often helps to start new traditions during the holidays so that's what we did. We changed some things. It still hurts but not as bad as that Christmas. My sons still aren't adults yet (they're teens now) but they're now "Santa's helpers" for the grands. They now help with shopping and wrapping and putting self assembled toys together.

My dd's mil also started her own tradition of going on holiday during Christmas. She and her husband used to spend Christmas with us. It was too painful for her to be here without her husband. My husband and I have 7 children and 4 grands, so holidays at our house is quite busy. Her only child is married to my daughter so it only made sense we spend our holidays together at our home, rather than impose ourselves at their home.

I wish you peace and comfort this Christmas.

Saggi Wed 12-Dec-18 15:31:05

I objected to taking my husbands surname on being married 46 years ago....but did see the practicability of it! If anybody ever has the audacity to address a card or letter to me with my husband given name on it , then I refuse to even open it , as it in no way resembles ME! I started officially calling myself Ms. as soon as my daughter married and did the same. Completely obliterating your own identity by calling yourself Mrs. Jack Smith is demeaning! What’s wrong with women.!

Pracatan Wed 12-Dec-18 15:31:35

I am sorry for your loss, I too lost my Dh some 4 years ago so understand the intricacies of grief. Anything you feel is normal, do not apologise. It is these type of things that not everyone, unless they are a member of the 'club' widowhood, can understand and you will be touchy, but if you know that then you are better equipped to deal with it. I have found over the years that I have been a widow that it has changed me, sometimes not for the better, and I am less tolerant than I was, but again grief does this to you. My thoughts are with y ou

tanith Wed 12-Dec-18 15:41:46

Thankyou everyone for your input, Im over the upset now but I just don’t get the logic of addressing an envelope without my surname very strange. I won’t be investigating further.

Conni7 Wed 12-Dec-18 15:43:21

I find it strange that people should treat you like this, Tanith. I was widowed last year and no-one has changed or missed off my surname. You are not being over-sensitive, as your first Christmas without your husband will be so sad for you.
Lots of us here will be thinking of you.

Regarding addressing partners not married, I just put their first names on the envelope.

tanith Wed 12-Dec-18 16:01:37

Thankyou Connie7 I’m sorry for your loss also

Grandma70s Wed 12-Dec-18 16:01:46

My husband died many years ago, but I still use Mrs when it applies, because that’s how I see myself.

When addressing postal items to other people, I just use their names with no titles - e.g. David Smith, not Mr David Smith or David Smith Esq. (Does anyone use Esq. any more?)

Bijou Wed 12-Dec-18 16:45:55

When I married seventy three years ago it was the done thing to take ones husband’s name and be addressed as Mrs John Smith and since I was widowed thirty years ago have been addressed as Mrs. My Christian name and my late husband’s surname. My elderly widowed friends are the same.
All those years ago it was not the done thing for unmarried couples live together let alone have children.

Legs55 Wed 12-Dec-18 17:07:08

I have retained my late DH's (very unusual) surname & I am Mrs not Ms which I hate.

When addressing envelopes to married couples I always put Mr & Mrs R Smith as I was taught this was correct.

My condolences to those of you who've lost loved ones this year , the 1st Christmas is the hardest. After almost 6 years I no longer find it so difficult.

sarahellenwhitney Wed 12-Dec-18 17:24:38

I cannot describe the feeling when, on the day of our wedding, I became a Mrs. That was the icing on the cake. Now as a widow I can never imagine myself as any one other than who I became on that day so many years, and memories, ago.

Edithb Wed 12-Dec-18 17:56:50

To address someone as Mrs John Smith is tantamount to saying that she is just an “s.”

Edithb Wed 12-Dec-18 18:00:16

The mother of a friend died just before Christmas and friends of her parents had obviously already written their Christmas cards so they simply crossed her name off the card.

GrandmaMoira Wed 12-Dec-18 18:10:59

I'm a widow and have continued to use my married name - I've not come across anyone leaving off a surname for a widow.
When I got divorced from my first DH I returned to my maiden name and used Ms instead of Mrs. I did then have some people unsure of what name to call me.

Noreen3 Wed 12-Dec-18 18:28:25

tanit,I've been a widow for 7 months,I received a card with just my 1st name on today,thought it a bit odd,I still use same surname.

Anniebach Wed 12-Dec-18 18:32:08

Edith, what is a ‘s’, I am curious of your opinion of me, just curious, not concerned.

SparklyGrandma Wed 12-Dec-18 18:37:40

My brother is married but they both use their own names. I address anything to them as -
David Smith and Lynda Powell.

Nannan2 Wed 12-Dec-18 18:38:39

Condolences for any recently bereaved....i think to be called 'mrs' (husbands name) is an older thing nowadays- it was used largely in WW2- 1960's times-it also seems to be more of an american term?certainly in the past. younger women these days call themselves 'mrs Ann smith (or whatever their OWN first name is)plus surname- wether they are widowed,married,divorced.

GabriellaG54 Wed 12-Dec-18 23:43:54

What a to-do about nothing. Use what names you like...does it matter?
It's only rabid feminists who insist on keeping their maiden name.

crazyH Thu 13-Dec-18 00:17:00

I still keep my married surname, even though we are divorced. I kept it because all my children had the surname and I didn't want to upset them by reverting to my maiden name and being different. It was a subliminal way of reassuring them I suppose.