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Deal if TM Resigns?? How does this suddenly make it acceptable to MPs

(66 Posts)
Bridgeit Wed 27-Mar-19 18:42:39

Am I missing something? how can a deal only be acceptable if TM resigns ?
Or is it just bad wording , bribery etc etc.
EITHER a deal is suitable or it isn’t
Please help me understand ?

Iam64 Wed 27-Mar-19 18:48:16

Sorry Bridgeit, I'm with you - I don't understand. I suspected she was going to offer to resign when Reece Mogg said he was changing his mind and would vote for her deal.
What changed?
I wonder if Mr Bercow will object if the deal remains the same?
I'll bet you the awful Sir Christopher Chope won't be shouting OBJECT like he did when it was FGM under discussion.

Ilovecheese Wed 27-Mar-19 18:50:40

I don't understand either, how does the deal become any better if she resigns. Either it is a good deal or it isn't.

lemongrove Wed 27-Mar-19 18:53:35

Because of course, they have now realised that May’s deal with the EU isn’t a bad one ( it never was) and they like all the other alternatives even less.Plus they want somebody else to take over for the next round of negotiations after we formally leave the EU.

Ilovecheese Wed 27-Mar-19 18:58:30

But if the deal she negotiated was not a bad one, why do they want someone else to take over?

Riverwalk Wed 27-Mar-19 18:59:01

I'm a bit surprised at May's announcement at this stage, just when it looks like the ERG have realised that it's May's deal or no Brexit.

lemongrove Wed 27-Mar-19 19:00:47

They think that somebody who voted to Leave would be the best choice for baragaining.May is not popular within her Party, in any case.

lemongrove Wed 27-Mar-19 19:01:15

Bargaining, sorry.

lemongrove Wed 27-Mar-19 19:01:48

It sweetens the pill for them.

Day6 Wed 27-Mar-19 19:01:50

She has faced the hostility of those in her on party and the house.

She could please no one. Remainer MPs have forced the UK into a corner - one in which we have little choice. We accept a bad deal (a good one for the EU) or we have nothing - as NO DEAL was also voted off the table by our stupid MPs.

Without that bargaining chip we have had to take what we have been given or stay in the EU for an even longer period of time.

What choice do we have?

Ilovecheese Wed 27-Mar-19 19:04:53

That is a good point lemongrove, about the party preferring a leaver to take over negotiating, that makes sense.

crystaltipps Wed 27-Mar-19 19:21:01

Not sure why Boris et al would suddenly vote for it when they said it was the worse deal in history and we would be a vassal state, worse than remaining etc, I suspect the volte face is so they can get their grubby hands on the tortuous real negotiations.

Day6 Wed 27-Mar-19 19:27:39

What choice is there? The EU is not prepared to bargain any longer.

Luckygirl Wed 27-Mar-19 19:34:56

Yes - I was equally puzzled - either they think the deal is good or they don't. Anyway, Bercow has said that deal cannot be brought back to the house.

Kandinsky Wed 27-Mar-19 19:44:32

They’ll take the deal providing a leaver takes over to do further negotiations.

Fennel Wed 27-Mar-19 19:46:13

They're frightened of losing their jobs.
I think the deal can be brought back as it now has an added condition (extension agreed by the EU.)

Fennel Wed 27-Mar-19 19:51:08

ps I've just seen that Bercow has said today there must be a change in the deal itself for another vote to take place.

mcem Wed 27-Mar-19 19:55:50

It's simply yet another hypocritical and devious ploy.
Once again, totally illogical and with no reasonable or honest justification!
Fallen on her sword or stabbed in the back?

Jalima1108 Wed 27-Mar-19 20:00:12

Am I missing something
I am missing something too.

If she's good enough to broker a deal for which they will vote, why is she not good enough to continue as PM?


Fennel Wed 27-Mar-19 20:10:18

"It's simply yet another hypocritical and devious ploy."
I agree mcem.
Or a total disregard of the views and legalities of the H of C.

crystaltipps Wed 27-Mar-19 20:38:55

I’m not sure why day6 continues to blame remainer MPs for May’s failure- why have the ERG and DUP not supported her? Shouldn’t they take some of the blame?

Nandalot Wed 27-Mar-19 20:41:44

Anyone who votes for it now and didn’t before is just playing party politics and positioning for power. Absolutely disgusting if anyone is swayed by this.

GrandmaMoira Wed 27-Mar-19 21:35:07

Day 6 - How have Remainer MPs forced us into a corner? It is the ERG and Leave MPs who are still not happy even though we are leaving and they will not vote for the deal on offer. Remainers are understandably unhappy as they lost and believe leaving is bad for the country, but are more willing to compromise and accept the deal.

Telly Wed 27-Mar-19 23:02:17

I think that it acceptable if the wannabes get a crack at the whip a bit sooner. It's clearly designed to let them demonstrate how they are just concerned about their own advancement, they couldn't care less about the wider implications of their actions as they are so cocooned.

Sparklefizz Thu 28-Mar-19 08:22:24

I would like the ship the lot of 'em off to a desert island, and start from scratch with some new people with integrity instead of this bunch of hypocrites and virtue signallers.