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blondenana Sat 04-May-19 12:38:46

My neighbour who i have lived next door to for 34 years is suddenly being very nasty, i have 2 large fence panels propped up at the top of my garden, cant fasten them to anything so propped up with wooden poles
The reason i did this was to stop my cats getting into their garden, as my now deceased Siamese once went over and got shouted at,so bought some panels off someone to try to stop this
All this nastiness started in October when i had a large fur tree cut down, [not all the way] as they said it was cutting their sunlight off,
However, when the man had finished my neighbour had a go at him for not cutting all their side off, although the highest branches were cut off,he would have probably had to go into their garden to do it,
As far as i knew he would cut all the way round, but apparently they only cut the top and the side of the persons who wanted it cut,so then she rang me and asked why i hadnt had their side cut too, i explained i i didnt know it wouldnt be, she said "its your bloody tree tell him to do it" of course it would have cost me an extra possibly £50 or more, so i told her if she wanted her side chopping she was welcome to do it, but i wasnt paying extra, so now this
I cant believe they are being so petty, i still have 3 cats who don;t venture out of my garden as they were house cats for a long time so don;t want to go away,they are all 10 years old
I have looked after their house when they have gone on holiday and done errands etc,they are both in their 80s now
I dont think i am being unreasonable in putting this fence panel back up every time it gets pushed down, it is not touching anything of theirs,as the fence originally between the houses is just wire and the posts are concrete, which is why i cant nail it up
All this was for their benefit originally
The houses are not private by the way but Housing association [sorry its so long]

blondenana Sat 04-May-19 23:31:38

Nfk do you mean the tree at the bottom of the garden or the one at the side which was cut back, neither are leylandiis, the one at the bottom of the garden is a canadian pine, and cant remember what the cut one is, but it grows very bushy, HA wont help , bu, very rarely see them, with hedges and fences so high, same at the other side, leave things as they are,if he pushes it down again i will just push it back until i can find another solution
I think they like to get their own way, but not this time
I very rarely see them at all, especially in winter,the gardens are very closed off,with high hedges etc

NfkDumpling Sat 04-May-19 22:27:36

That looks like a Lelandii or similar Blonde, in which case if you had had their side cut back to your fence line it may well have cut all the green off and these type of trees don’t regenerate easily. If ever. They’d not have like to look at a a dead looking tree would they?

Your housing association should be able to help and may even fix the fence for you.

blondenana Sat 04-May-19 20:59:38

Sorry post seems to have got a bit muddled,should start i i did complain

blondenana Sat 04-May-19 20:57:51

+ould complain about thatden then they wI did approach the Housing association about the tree,they said they didnt do it anymore but put me in touch with a contractor for them, he wanted £400, so had to find someone myself, the young man who did do it works for them and did it as a favour, he said i was within my rights to only have my side cut down as that was legal, they have 2 sons who could cut their side down
I have no idea why they are being so nasty, and it WAS said nastily, about the fence panels.it doesnt spoil any views etc, in fact that part of their garden is just weeds, he was a very keen gardener ,but cant keep with it now i think, ook the panels away could get through their wire fencing into their gar
My cats do not jump on the fences ever,but if i took the panes down they could walk into their garden, which they wouldnt like either
Also i dont trust them not to poison them, my Siamese came in once with a blistered tongue after being in their garden, and died not long after, my vet said he had licked something caustic and before anyone says i am being paranoid or something, when i first moved here the gardens were not enclosed like now, and my cat at that time was chased by another cat and was run over,my neighbour said she saw which cat chased it and suggested i put poison down for it,i was horrified so another reason i dont want my cats in there

blondenana Sat 04-May-19 20:41:27

Flexible the side branches were cut at her side at the top of course, as the height was taken off,its just the lower branches,which i also have at my side,their light is not still being cut out, and i didnt know that this is how it worked when trees in someones garden were cut down, to cut all the lower branches off on their side he would have had to go into their garden, her side looks no different to mine at the lower end
I did aplologise that he hadnt gone all the way round, but my side is the same,i am not apologising again, i could barely afford to pay what i did, so want going to fork out another £50 for their side
I have a small tree from their side that is hanging over my fence,i wouldnt go round and ask them to come and cut it ,i do it

Alexa Sat 04-May-19 19:46:18

I have a lot of trees which belong to me at the borders of my garden . If I want to cut them down completely I may do so. If I want to keep the trees my neighbours are within their rights to chop off any branches that overhang their property.

You are allowed to prop up fence panels in your own garden and neighbour who knocks them down is doing criminal damage.

Your neighbour does sound a little delally and the best way to deal with him or her is to humour them as much as you can. Say that you will chop the branches, and put up a nicer fence or whatever improves their mood.

Tedber Sat 04-May-19 19:16:16

Sorry missed the bit about it being housing association ....
Ask for advice

Tedber Sat 04-May-19 19:14:27

Seems two issues here. First of all agree with other poster a few fence panels will not stop cats jumping it. Secondly, whose land is the tree in? If it is in yours then you don't have an absolute obligation to chop the neighbours side down as they could do that themselves (and throw back the branches to your side) But IF it is on your side and you don't want to upset neighbours, it seems sensible to have the whole lot chopped (to stop any arguments)

I don't know why everyone is assuming you are in a housing association property? I am speaking if it is privately owned. IF it IS a housing association then yes get in touch with them and ask them to remove the tree.

After 34 years living neighbourly ...is it really worth all the aggro?

blondenana Sat 04-May-19 19:11:37

The large fir tree at the back is mine too, but the people over the back like it and dont want it down

blondenana Sat 04-May-19 19:08:05

Thank you all for repliesthe man who cut tree was a council tree surgeon, he lives in my street and did it as a favour for me at a reduced price in his spare time,it still cost me £200,and before i had it cut i told them next door i was going to see about it,they asked me not to cut it right down as it gives us both some privacy
Also i didnt know that the tree should only be cut on my side as i was the one whose garden it is in, but the part that was cutting their light out has been chopped off,it was the top half, it wasnt affecting my light that way but was growing outwards towards my window, so was cutting my light out that way,so really for my own benefit i could have just had it trimmed back
I have no intention of paying more for their side to be cut,it is at the lower part of the tree and wont affect the light into their house or garden,
I am only on a state pension and they are much better off so could pay or have paid to have more off,i had no idea that by law i only had to cut my side,
As for the fence panel, he told me[ the husband ] that he had pushed the panel down on purpose as it was pushing on his fence, he hasnt even got a fence, it is plastic covered wire and on checking it the panel doesnt touch it at all
The cats i have now dont even attempt to go out of my garden, they are ragdolls and lazy laid back cats
As for putting the panels in properly it would be difficult,i have a small tree [a buddleia] that collapsed last year and it would need getting out of the way
If i remove the panels, the cats can easily get through his wire fence,as he calls it so i dont think i can win really
Anyway,the panels have been there for over 10 years
I have a similiar panel closer to the house, which i have fastened to the fence post in between the houses,he doesnt like that either, he says its fastened to his fence posts
The panel he pushed over are at the top of the garden and cant be seen by either of us from our window
I really think they ARE losing the plot, never had any problems before,he has walking difficulties, and i believe she has heart problems, only know that by someone else telling me,

I think whatever i do it wont please so the fence panel will stay where it is
A few years ago,i was thinking of downsizing and they said they hoped i wouldn;t as they didn;t want a family with kids, [her words]
Pics attachedm, view from my window, cant even see the fence, neither will they and view from the garden, with cut down tree

Anja Sat 04-May-19 17:07:51

Is a Housing Association like a Council House?

Any road you need to get the fence fixed and possibly apologise over the tree.

aggie Sat 04-May-19 17:03:59

the cat next door climbs our 7ft brick wall !

callgirl1 Sat 04-May-19 16:51:12

A fence won`t keep out a cat if it wants to go somewhere, they can jump quite high.

grandtanteJE65 Sat 04-May-19 15:52:39

With hindsight it would probably have been better to have had the tree felled!

Talk to your housing association and do get someone to put up a proper fence, fixed to posts, if you can't do heavy work yourself.

Life is really to short to have this kind of nonsense with neighbours.

aggie Sat 04-May-19 15:50:30

Are you sure the pushed them ? Maybe the stiff breezes we have been having blew them over , I would get them fixed

FlexibleFriend Sat 04-May-19 15:47:10

I don't understand how the height was reduced but not the branches on the neighbours side but I don't think she's being unreasonable to expect you to have asked them if they wanted their side done as well. I have a couple of large trees in my garden and get my son to prune the branches regularly and always ask next door if they want the branches their side removed or left. It's your tree and if they do cut the branches off themselves they have to give them to you and many neighbours just chuck them over the fence. It's not fair to expect people in their '80's to cut back your tree. Also are the fence panels just leaning against the wire fence, that's how it sounds, are they really being unreasonable to push them over or are they trying to hint they are dangerous and should be fixed properly. I have no idea about HA properties but those of us who own have to get a fencer in to sink the posts into the ground, concrete are best and the panels just slot into them. So that's your responsibility to even if it's just contacting the HA.

Cold Sat 04-May-19 14:46:41

I think it was a bit unreasonable not to have cut the tree fully back. If the tree is in your garden it is your responsibility to maintain, and cut it back. You are usually responsible for branches that encroach on others property. I would check your lease as it is likely that you are responsible for maintaining the garden and fencing. If they do cut it back themselves, I believe the law allows them to leave the debris on your side as it is your tree.

I would be rather upset as a neighbour if I had been complaining about a tree blocking light and the neighbour only cut their side back and not the part that I had been complaining about. The neighbour may have interpreted this act as deliberately nasty. £50 is a cheap price to maintain good relations.

Grammaretto Sat 04-May-19 14:32:53

I too would suspect the neighbour is being unreasonable and turned nasty. She may be in pain?. It's often the case that it's not just one person getting the brunt of the bad temper so don't worry that you've done anything wrong.
I would definitely talk to someone at the HA . They will have dealt with neighbourhood disputes before.

Gran2028 Sat 04-May-19 14:32:40

If the tree is on 'your ' land.. ALL of it is YOUR responsibility... should have had it ALL chopped...

crazyH Sat 04-May-19 14:24:42

Thanks Nina - yes, I know what council houses are....we had a big development of them near where I used to live , but wasn't sure about Housing Association houses. Thanks again.

ninathenana Sat 04-May-19 14:18:29

CrazyH Housing Association is basically what used to be called Council Housing or social housing. You pay rent to them in the same way you would a private landlord.
They own the property and make the tenancy rules. The can be called upon to mediate in neighbours disputes.

EllanVannin Sat 04-May-19 14:15:37

I too was going to say the onset of dementia. Aren't we supposed to mellow and be more tolerant as we get older ? If not, then something's going wrong.
34 years is a long time to have been neighbours and if things are now going " amiss " I'd certainly question it.

Gonegirl Sat 04-May-19 14:06:18

Oops! Sorry Glamma. grin

glammanana Sat 04-May-19 14:00:00

No we are not Gonegirl but it is sometimes the common denominator in cases like this,I don't comment often and try to put both sides equally I did not say all "grumpy old ladies are heading for dementia" at all just put a point forward which may be the problem,I won't bother again thank you very much.

Gonegirl Sat 04-May-19 13:53:19

Are we now going to suspect all slightly grumpy oldies of being heading for dementia? Please not.