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Climate change protesters anyone else think they are hypocritical? AIBU

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sazz1 Mon 15-Jul-19 11:43:47

Ok so part of the town is shut off due to protesters causing diversions and more traffic fumes. Also the majority probably don't use public transport or ride a bike to work. When the kids did it it was on a school day not a weekend. And you can bet they drive with parents to school, clubs, visit friends etc to say nothing about gap years later when they fly around the world. Also I'll bet a lot go on foriegn holidays and certainly not biking in the countryside. Also the mess left behind shows they don't care about the environment much either. Why protest in busy streets etc when we have a huge green outside our council buildings? Anyone else feel like this or am I just a miserable OAP
Thoughts?

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 10:47:34

I'm not shooting anyone down in flames. Having heard the item on the Today programme this morning about ER, I'm getting seriously worried. A few jollies in city centres is one thing, bringing down financial institutions, and British democracy, is quite another.

WadesNan Wed 17-Jul-19 10:47:55

There was a phone in on local radio this morning and a number of people have told stories of missed hospital appointments. One man said he had been unable to work whilst waiting 4 months for an appointment at the BRI for tests on his heart, that appointment is today and as he is travelling from the north of the city is unsure whether he will be able to get there. When this was put to one of the protesters, they said it was a "minor inconvenience". so yes they are rapidly losing support

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 10:50:53

All this critising protestors for the peaceful demos they have carried out so far is ridiculous though. And small minded. It's for the good of the planet which will belong not to us, but our children's children.

Like a bunch of Les Dawson style old ladies.

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 10:53:18

Have any of you bothered to inform yourselves at all?

item on Today prog About 2 hours 35 mins in. If you can be bothered.

Callistemon Wed 17-Jul-19 10:57:41

But they are achieving nothing by inconviencing others.

It is a global problem and some countries are just Not Listening.

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 11:16:35

They are achieving. The government has had to listen and put plans in place. They can't just gloss over it anymore. ER has brought the plight of the planet to the forefront like nothing else before it.

WadesNan Wed 17-Jul-19 11:23:08

Most people were already aware of climate change (have been for many years), stopping people getting to hospital, visiting sick or elderly relatives or getting to work will do nothing to solve the problem. Come up with some WORKABLE solutions rather than just sitting in a bath in the middle of a major road.

Elegran Wed 17-Jul-19 12:16:29

Right then, anyone on here got any workable solutions?

Ones that everyone hearing or reading them will accept and be 100% behind, without the need for positive and unequivocal action from the government and the popular media?

Ones that won't inconvenience anyone in their normal lives, or cost anyone more than just carrying on regardless and hoping someone else (the climate fairies?) will fix it overnoght?

Ones that will convince deniers with their heads firmly in the sand, like President T, that it really is true, and that doing something about it is the best gamble and won't cause their nation or their business to become a goody-goody unprofitable hasbeen bankrupt?

I'm sure the campaighners would be delighted to hear it. You could even become famous as the saviour of the globe.

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 12:23:46

Most people were already aware of climate change (have been for many years),

Exactly! Aware but doing nothing. hmm

Pantglas1 Wed 17-Jul-19 12:36:32

Most (4) of my grandchildren are still at primary/secondary school with excellent attendance records.

The eldest (19) works full time, another (17) is on a yearlong work experience with emergency service with possibility of apprenticeship soon.

Another (16) works weekends & school holidays and I am proud to say that they are inconveniencing no one going about their daily business and certainly not anyone who is ill or visiting patients.

Callistemon Wed 17-Jul-19 13:58:18

Like a bunch of Les Dawson style old ladies.
Not at all.
Most of us fully recognise what is happening but question the methods being used.
Exactly! Aware but doing nothing
I think it is big business which needs to be made aware - the fast food chains, the bottled water companies, plastics industry, the supermarket chains etc..

We can only do our tiny bit - and what happened when we conscientiously recycled? It got sent off to China, now Malaysia, where it lies in stinking dumps.

I'm not being Cissie or Ada when I say that they are targeting the wrong people.

^ A few jollies in city centres is one thing^
jollies?

Callistemon Wed 17-Jul-19 14:02:18

www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/climate-change/

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 14:08:19

I said the "jollies" thing in the context of what they seem to be planning for 7th October. It was in my link. The things I find worrying.

GS was in the police approved area at Marble Arch. And yes, he did enjoy it. (jollies) And did no harm to anyone.

Lisagran Wed 17-Jul-19 14:09:49

Useful, clear, link Callistemon - thanks. Especially the section on what we can do ourselves
www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/takeaction/

WadesNan Wed 17-Jul-19 14:13:58

Elegran and just how does sitting in a bath in the middle of the road help things? Do you think governments, businesses or even President Trump are going to open their newspapers and say "oh dear someone is sitting in a pink bath we had better do something about climate change" !! hmm

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 14:16:34

Do you know, I'm really not up for discussing climate change and what may or not be being done about. I won't be going on an ER demo anytime soon. Just feel proud of GS because he's a caring individual. (And he's got a couple of jobs pantyglas)

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pinkquartz Wed 17-Jul-19 14:18:16

surely inconveniencing the ones causing the problems might be more useful.
The global countries producing the rubbish we don't really need.
A boycott of tat produced in China for a start.
And the wealthy elite who have more power and money, if they could be persuaded to change their habits wouldn't that do more good?
The wastefulness of car transport.
How can we improve public transport?
I think making an ordinary person struggling with health issues is counterproductive.

I don't believe these demo's are helping........I think we know there is a problem it is getting things changed that needs to happen and I don't believe for a minute that this Govt has any intention of making positive changes.

There have been some very good documentaries on TV about plastics for a start. Education that way is of more benefit.

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 14:19:08

I am glad about the upcoming Climate Change Summit. Thank you for the link Callistemon.

gillybob Wed 17-Jul-19 14:22:53

How do you know people are aware but doing nothing Gonegirl ?

Just because some of us have jobs to go to and family to look after and are not able to block city centres and prevent people from getting g to vital appointments doesn’t mean we are doing nothing .

gillybob Wed 17-Jul-19 14:24:24

And with all due respect to your DGS Gonegirl his carbon footprint is quite probably much bigger/greater than mine!

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 14:27:51

Gillybob I think it's only very recently that plastic cups and straws and the like have been frowned upon. And other things too have come in only recently. It needed bringing to the forefront which ER have done.

Gonegirl Wed 17-Jul-19 14:30:32

Yes, it probably is gillybob, or at least it will be after his Scout trip. Although he is a bus and bike boy.

I am sorry you have to live in such sad circumstances.

Pantglas1 Wed 17-Jul-19 14:40:28

Hope your grandson’s attention to detail in his couple of jobs is better than yours Gonegirl..... ref my name. And all three of mine are in the ‘caring’ services and wouldn’t dream of swanning around uselessly, causing real harm to other individuals.

Actually I have a lot of sympathy as mine too had high minded ideals until they entered the real world and found that the best thing they could do was work hard, think about their own actions and remedy any wrong ones.

gillybob Wed 17-Jul-19 14:48:03

I don’t live in sad circumstances Gonegirl confused

gillybob Wed 17-Jul-19 14:49:23

Nothing that these people have done or are doing will encourage me to change anything in my life.