AIBU to mention scrotum-waxing?

Miranda Yardley a transwoman herself, has written about the individual under discussion and their questionable behaviour around young girls and their sinister preoccupation with periods and sanitary wear. MY deems this person to be a pervert. I don't think it needs to be stated that all transwomen are the same, here are two who are clearly very different.

It's not about one person in Canada. I do think we have to be aware of where Canada goes with this in time we may follow. Whilst all of this may not affect our generation as much I do think it's impacting on younger women and girls significantly.

^ I don't think it needs to be stated that all transwomen are the same, here are two who are clearly very different^.

In view of what I said earlier, about legislating against risk, I think that transwomen have something of a duty to be sensitive to the feelings of natal women. Surely their 'feeling/belief' that they are women should indicate that they too, should be aware of what just about every natal woman knows; that men can be devious, predatory and regard women as mere objects for their use. I feel they shouldn't want to risk women and girls being open to abuse by rogue 'transwomen'. And so should accept that there things like SID which they just cannot safely attain.

That's a very good point, MaizieD.

I believe the process for gender recognition can be very lengthy, including long waiting times.
Campaigning for that time to be made shorter would be far more sensible than campaigning for self-id with no checks other than trusting the individual not to lie.

Miranda Yardley, Debbie Hayton and Kristina Harrison are transwomen who have spoken out about the dangers of self-id.
Anyone should be able to find out what they say, with our friend Google (or other search engine).

ouch !

I found the topic interesting. SI will cause many problems we haven't thought of. Truly the world has gone mad!
Nothing else to say except I would have to be paid an awful lot of money to do this. Yuk!!

Sorry suziewoozie misunderstanding on my part.

There are so many problems here as annep1 said difficult to get my head around it all. I do agree with a lot of MaizieD's comments.

Has anyone already mentioned than Y wanted to be waxed while on their "period" i.e. with a tampon inserted presumably rectally and specifically the string being visable to beauticians.

That is a sexual role play scenario not a beauty treatment. Both parties consent should be required for kink-play

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator/

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Dunno why link not working will try agsin..

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator/

Google what Miranda Yardley has to say on "Jessica Yanov" if anyone wants further clarification, the individual in question appears to have a fetish about periods and worryingly hangs around washrooms discussing the prospect on Twitter of engaging very young girls into a discussion about tampons. Hence Miranda Yardley's assertion that this person is a "pervert" but strangely this person's musings on Twitter seem not to have been met with the stern admonishments that the female beauticians are now suffering and possible ruination if the case goes against them.

Oh I see you've beaten me to it notanan

This is shocking, and ridiculous too. What a waste of time for a Human Rights Tribunal. If it does go to the law I hope she loses and has to pay costs.
If she wants her scrotum waxed why can't he/she do it herself?
And I never knew a penis was hairy. Sorry to be crude.

There was a twitter ac quoting the proceedings as they happened.

They were equal measures rediculous (Ys parents running in and out, taking off their shoes????) and cruel (towards the woman)

Fennel it is happening in the Canadian courts now.

Yaniv seems to want maximum attention for himself as well as indulging his fetishes in public and being able to harass and intimidate biological females.

Y is also getting to torchure vulerable women via the courts. She did not pick a bunch of sassy western women who will all counter sue did she

Would a non trans identifying male be allowed to sue women for declining to consent or would it be thrown out at initial hearing for being vexatious.

It is worth bearing in mind that Y does not always identify as female & has had male aliases

This is why self ID is so dangerous. And TRUE transwomen like Miranda Yardley oppose it.

We have plenty of politicians in the UK who applaud the canada model so this is not to be ignored

'Transwomen are women' is dangerous, whether the person has legal recognition or not.
Whatever treatment or surgery they get, or don't get, they are still men.

AIBU to mention scrotum-waxing?

YES! Very unreasonable in such sensitive company as Gransnetters.

Orchidic Grooming is much more refained

What is really depressing is how far down the road Canada is with what essentially is bollocks about bollocks There is much more awareness about this case on MN, possibly because that generation will be more affected by any future legislation. Given Jessica Yaniv's weird perverted obsession with periods/sanitary wear and their desire to start potential conversations with very young girls in washrooms on that subject, you could assume that they would want to stay well under the radar, but clearly this is not the case, indeed it appears that they get some sort of kick out of going public with their fetish. Whatever, the ruling, I suppose it would be too much to hope that their own very questionable behaviour might be put under the spotlight too and a conclusion reached this is not a person women would want around their young daughters or granddaughters. In other words it's wrong that they should be able to use female only facilities simply because they self identify as a woman.

Waxing a scrotum requires a different set of skills to waxing labia. The skin is ‘baggier’ and more easily ripped

NEVER look up scrotum de-gloving <<not envy

Also, women should not be forced to touch male genitalia.

The person who has brought these lawsuits is well known for being incredibly litigious - in fact, they seem to be doing quite well out of it.

Yaniv is a vile, predatory creature with a tampon fetish and an unhealthy interest in young girls. They've also been outed as a racist.

BradfordLass72 Thanks for actually answering my question.