Regularly say it in Church so, thanks be to God, I know it off by heart.
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(178 Posts)Just a random thought, how many of you can recite the Lords Prayer? I come from a family who went to church regularly, and it was said at school, so I still can recite it. DD struggled to half way through, DGD ........... Think it’s a pity that morning assemblies are not compulsory in schools any more
sounds like a translation of the Scots Selkirk Grace Urmstongran
Some hae meat but canna eat
an some hae nane but want it
I hae meat an I can eat
an sae the lord be thankit
Rabbie Burns
usually said at Burns suppers
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Paddyann, and how much better it is in the Lallans language!
Having moved so much around the world, we can say The Lord's Prayer in English, German and French [bragging again]! Such a shame that this practice is now null and void due to "multi-culturism"
Schools do still have daily assemblies. This from the Education department website:
“All maintained schools must provide religious education and daily collective worship for all registered pupils and promote their spiritual, moral and cultural development.”
and:
“Collective worship in county schools and equivalent grant-maintained schools must be wholly or mainly of a broadly Christian character, though not distinctive of any particular Christian denomination.”
I went to Catholic schools, and can still remember lots of prayers, including the sung Pater Noster. However, we had hour long assemblies, with what amounted to sermons by our headmaster, warning us of our almost certain descent into hell because of our abominable behaviour, and I certainly wouldn’t want any of my grandchildren to experience that!
I can still recite the traditional Lord's prayer. I have never caught up with the newer one. I'm not sure what that proves though. Unless it is a faith school, I agree with Urmstongran that assemblies should be secular.
I went to a CofE primary school. We had assembly every day and had to be able to recite this and other prayers.. I know The Creed too.
As a Guide Leader DD can too but DS and DH couldn't.
I'm 66 and still remember it from school when we said it every morning in assembly. Not that I've ever needed it. It's just one of those things.
There are several versions each with a minor word change. E.g. debts/ trespasses. Them/those. I understand the lat line was not introduced by Jesus at all but was a later insertion by some bishop or other high heid yin.
Learnt it at School and say it every night at bedtime, its the traditional version.
Times tables are still a help.
Morning assemblies were good, they should still have them I think.
What a nice thread this is today.
Yes, but sometimes get caught out as it's occasionally shortened and also with which/who.
I can recite my times tables but am still struggling with the Welsh national anthem in Welsh.
Must persevere.
Yes, on a regular basis, but does anyone know when the Pope's alteration of the line 'lead us not into temptation' will come into force?
Yes, in English and in French. Plus multiple hymns in English C of E
Like Pantglas , brought up in the valleys.I learned The Lords Prayer both at school and at Sunday school. Also the Welsh national anthem at school. We also sang hymns during assembly. Some in Welsh and some in English. I remember the words of quite a lot.
I learnt it off by heart at school. We weren't/aren't churchgoers. My kids learnt it at Scouts/Guides. DGC? No chance.
I'm not a believer but the Lord's Prayer is firmly entrenched in my brain, along with numerous hymns and the national anthem. The legacy of school and Sunday school!
I doubt any of my children could recite them, despite having gone to Sunday school, and my youngest is the most ignorant of all as she didn't go to SS. I hold my hands up, that's my fault.
I do think it's a shame, from the historical aspect.
The stories of the comfort such knowledge can bring are interesting. A friend's elderly father was very agitated in hospital after a severe stroke. The only thing that soothed him was quietly playing a CD of hymns. He wasn't a religious man at all but the sheer familiarity seemed to bring him comfort in his final days.
My favourite grace is
'Good food, good meat,
Good Lord, let's eat.'
Yes because it stays with you, a bit like times tables. I was brought up a Catholic so "Our Father" and "Hail Mary" were hard wired into us. We don't say " for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory" at the end though that still sounds alien my ears. I don't recite either very often, occasionally when I'm sitting on the tarmac waiting for my plane to take off, or when it's airborne and there's turbulence. Pathetic I know 
TerriBull
I too was brought up a Catholic and going to a convent boarding school had to go to mass every morning before breakfast. (how we envied the non-catholic’s who went to breakfast first, there was always someone who fainted through hunger)
I can still remember the prayers in Latin.
But I now go to a Anglican service but like you find the
“for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory etc. alien
Yes - English and French. School Assembly every day included reciting the Lord's Prayer, and singing at least two hymns. My generation are probably the last who can sing hymns without needing to look at the words. I attended a funeral last week and 'Praise, my Soul, the King of Heaven' was sung - how it took me back to school, and the words were all there.
I know it from childhood. Our Catholic version has a slightly different ending. The one I remember having drummed I to me is the Hail Mary. I know longer pray. It's a pointless exercise for me.
Yep, I know it. I never say it thoug when at weddings or funerals because I don't believe. We were taught it at school and had assemblies as the norm. It wasn't until I was old enough to doubt and question the 'stories' we were told that I realised what a load of old rubbish it was. I don't think schools should have assemblies at all, I think they should teach more about evolution.
I recited it yesterday at my aunt's C of E funeral. I did slow down a bit when we got to certain passages in case it was going to be different. When I taught in a Catholic school, the slightly different end would catch me out. I used to love Mass there (am not RC), so peaceful.
Few secondary schools have the accommodation to fit in 1200 big pupils, and it takes forever to get them in, and then out again. All pupils will do a weekly year or house assembly with a moral/spiritual aspect, and there should be something shorter and similar in morning tutor time to uphold the DfE rules.
Hildagard. It's interesting to me that you say you learned it in school and that you want children to have the same opportunity of saying this prayer in school assembly possibly daily.
I am a Christian, but I do not think it the duty of our schools to teach a particular religion's prayer to the pupils. If the school is a Christian school then the parents have already chosen that their children will be given a Christian education. However, it is the parents who are responsible for their children growing up in a particular faith and learning the practices of that faith including the main prayers. If you care about being a Christian you will see that your children learn about Christianity, go to a Church with you, say prayers with you and live a Christian life. It is up to the parents to decide what the children learn about religious observation.
Muslim children are given a strong education in their faith. They attend their faith school on Saturdays and at other times. This is because their parents want them to.
To say you "Think it’s a pity that morning assemblies are not compulsory in schools any more'' because your DD and DGD cannot say the Lord's prayer upsets me as a Christian. If you believe that this prayer is worth knowing by heart, then teach it to your children, take them to Church, show them a Christian life and let them see why it is important to you to be a Christian. School assemblies were not so that children could parrot-fashion say the Lord's prayer. They were a time of worship when we were overwhelmingly a Christian Nation. Today that is not feasible. But it has always been the parents' responsibility to raise their children in any religious faith they believe or follow, not the school's.
I’m not a believer and never have been, but as I have said I always loved assembly, which we called Prayers. I liked the routine, the hymns, the prayers, the little talk by the Headmistress, and above all I loved psalms, chanted using Anglican chant. They often had weird and wonderful words.It was all food for the soul.
My children had a bit of this at primary school, none at all at senior school, but my younger son started going to church for the social life when he was about 11, so he isn’t a total heathen.
My grandchildren go to schools that are nominally Church of England (though in fact multi-faith), so they are quite knowledgeable. My grandson (10) loves discussing religion.
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I think it is wrong to teach children that any one faith is ‘right’. They should be taught about different faiths and then choose for themselves. Surely that’s the intelligent approach.
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