Empathy for Our Queen? ( As a Mother)

We don’t televise trials but they are open to the press, and
what reason for a trial ?

Andrew can’t be charged with child abuse or trafficking, she was 17 , is looking very happy in the photograph and said she
wanted the photograph taken because she was with a royal.

The only trial can be suing Epstein’s estate , in America surely ?

The press just report the bits they fancy. The only way to really do it is sit there from gavel to gavel and see everything the jury see, and more. I have done that with some really interesting cases. Housework build up, husband goes hungry but.. lol

Yes the case they want to bring is against Epstein's estate I gather. But a lot of background will be covered. Andrew is wanted for that as a witness.

There will be some queuing to get into the court ?

There is going to be much more coming out because of all the women involved. PA may not have committed a crime in the UK because she was legally of age, but his reputation is in tatters. And there were lengthy visits to Epstein's properties where large numbers of young girls were seen coming and going on a regular basis, whether during his visits we don't know. Those girls will all be talking, and what they will say regarding PA remains to be seen. Already they have said he had massages. He just says he saw people coming and going, but what for he didn't know!

We will never know the truth .

He lied . And I doubt the girls who have come forward recently with the lawyer.

He said he had been to Epstein’s island, next day a Jane Doe
gives and interview saying Epstein had invited her to the island saying Andrew and others would be there, she didn’t go.

Day after Virginia’s interview a witness comes forward to say
she remembers seeing Andrew in Tramp that night 18 years
ago.

No I don’t feel sorry for the queen at all. I se her as a greedy, cold, formidable person without a maternal bone in her body. Does she care for all the desperate people at the foodbanks, those lying cold and hungry in shop doorways, those poor people on universal credit that can’t feed their children? I highly doubt it. The rich elite care nothing, so I’m sure I don’t care about them.

Agree dreamqueen

Any excess from the money they are given is saved private investments

And Queen has a 10 million off shore tax haven.
They care only about themselves

The Queen is extremely wealthy.

Private income from The two Duchys
As well as travel paid and security

Neither of you know that, it's only what you surmise.

How do you know the Queen and others do not donate vast sums to charity? You don't know. They probably do.

'Anonymous donor' - could be HM.

The Sovereign Grant Financial Report is a public document for anyone to scrutinise if they wish, so I doubt any taxpayers' money goes into their private funds.

If you're worried about that you can always ask for more information.

what funny username to choose dreamqueen - do you have aspirations of being a monarch?

Callistenab the royal finances are shrouded in secrecy, and no I dream of being a republic. A hereditary monarchy has no place in a democratic, supposedly equal society. It’s wrong on every single level.

Amazed that some know the Queen personally, - without a
maternal bone in her body !

And no, the idea of the queen being the “anonymous donor” is laughable. They support charities simply by giving their name to them. Not long ago the queen applied for a handout from the pensioners cold weather fund. How charitable was that.

The queen applied for cold weather payments ? What rubbish

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-tried-to-use-state-poverty-fund-to-heat-buckingham-palace-2088179.html

Anniebach why would I make something up that a simple google search would find. I wouldn’t be quick to dismiss anything as “rubbish” till I’d checked.

Anniebach none of us know her but if we shouldn’t give opinions on that basis, why is it ok to say how wonderful she is (as many do) if they don’t know her. I said she isn’t maternal going off what we HAVE seen.

Do you have inside information dreamqueen

You do not know whether or the Queen and other members of the RF make financial contributions to charity.

How can you possibly know one way or another?

Your post are your own personal suppositions, not facts.

Dream on.

Callistemon no you dream on, carry on being gullible and believing in fairy tales. Btw your user name is one of those odd ones that we have to keep going back to to check the spelling. Not a real word.

And Callistmon the queen has a personal fortune of approx £365 million, yet she was applying for a slice of the old people’s cold weather grant. Doesn’t sound like a woman who wants to part with her cash.

I really feel for the Queen and feel that she shouldn't have to put up with this utter nonsense regarding PA. Of course he is so arrogant that he thought he'd get away with it. She has been a great Queen and could do without this scandal and rubbish.

dreamqueen Perhaps you would prefer a head of state who is without personal wealth and receives no financal reward from the state.
Maybe a Trump or a Putin??

As for names, would not dreamPresident be a more suitable moniker?

No I’d prefer a head of state that was democratically elected, not there through the accident of birth, and one who would cost the country far less than the royal family do, with all their hangers on. Ireland’s presidency is 2 and a half times cheaper, works well, they don’t have to pay for the security of 21 family members (as is the case with the RF) and they get voted out democraticly and fairly if the people decide.

dreamqueen you really think the queen sat down and filled in application forms for cold weather payments? ?

Anniebach Why on earth would the queen be filling in forms , that wouldn’t be how things worked. But something like that would had to have been passed by her first. It’s irrelevant who wrote the letter, it was on behalf of the queen, that’s all we need to know. .

dreamqueen you surely don’t think the Queen checks all paperwork for her residences ? Wine cellar payments, checks the electric bills, vets bills, petrol bills, etc