Is anyone else becoming neurotic?

I’ve established a routine after listening to Dr Sarah Jarvis on the radio. I don rubber gloves to pick up anything delivered to front step (sign on door).

On my kitchen table I have an oil cloth. Everything gets put on that and sprayed/wiped with a bleach solution (except for fruit and veg) Then I leave it for a while. I wash my gloved hands, hang gloves on line to dry, then wash my hands.

Wipe down any surfaces I might have touched with bleach solution and put groceries away and wipe the oil cloth. I makes me feel better and that’s about all we can do.

We leave post a full 24 hours on the porch floor before opening, I watched the postman the other day and he was wiping his nose on back and front of his hand and then posting the letters. Porous materials should be relatively okay after 24 hours.
Hard surfaces such as bottles and plastic wrappings stay in the porch for 72 hours before being stored in cupboards.

I think she was quite right to question the alleged source of the information and to inform you that it was incorrect.

I do not agree with you Eloethan. I have accepted all along that Hetty58 was quite right to research and bring back that research on the content of the post.

She did not, in fact, question my source in her initial post so I am not sure why you are not bringing that up. She only brought that up as yet another personal dig. If you think that is okay I have misunderstood your character for some time.

What she rudely did, and is the only thing I have complained about, is superciliously reprimanded another adult. In the real world, I could just have walked away and talked to someone else making my feelings about her rudeness clear. On here, unfortunately, the only way to do that is to tell her. Rudeness and pomposity were the issues, not the fact that she had done some further research and was sharing it. That is surely what we are all doing.

so I am not sure why you are not bringing that up

so I am not sure why you are bringing that up

I still don't believe that I reprimanded anyone or was rude in any way. Examples please?

Daddima, just ignoring a post is irresponsible if it contains misinformation.

These are not usual times. We're in a national emergency situation. Yes, some people are becoming neurotic - and showing all the classic signs!

@Hetty58
I flagged up a glaring inaccuracy in the information in question further upthread and was met with the same waspish response. Usual modus operandi I'm afraid.

Any advice for someone who can’t wear gloves ,? bleach causes a rash

Anniebach I believe that really good hand washing technique is more important than gloves.

GrannyLaine thank you. To lighten things up -

I challenge anyone to fold three fingers on both hands into
their palms and with a thumb and forefinger grip a bar of
soap ! I have manage to hit the kitchen window, the kitchen door, frighten my dog as the soap flies out of my hands .

I now understand - he/she is as slippery as a bar of soap ?

GracesgranMk3 I am not really well up on particular ongoing animosities between posters.

If Hetty58 's posts were personal digs at you then that is regrettable and I'm sorry if you feel you were being got at (though I can't say I noticed any rudeness but perhaps I missed some posts).

I still think care should be taken in disseminating information that may not be reliable.

Anniebach, bleach really irritates my skin. I tend to make a solution, add a cloth - then put my hands in large freezer bags to wring and use it.

Hetty freezer bags , thank you, thank you, thank you, I didn’t
think of that, it will be such a help x

I still think care should be taken in disseminating information that may not be reliable

Which is exactly why I said people should make their own minds up about the post Eloethan. If I had said nothing I could understand all this but I did make a specific comment. I doubt that anyone shares information deliberately to mislead others. Do some people just need to reprimand someone else at least once a day to keep their own sense of importance perhaps?

Hetty58 's post about my source is still there. If you can read it as pleasantly meant ... ... ...

This conversation has surely run its course and more now. If others wish to continue I cannot stop you but I will not be answering even the posts of those I usually hold in some regard. There are more important things in life than this.

Apparently some people here in France have been cleaning their dogs with bleach after they have been outside - unbelievable.

I have read and heard also today that WHO have changed their advice on the wearing of masks in public??

Do you have a link May7?

It certainly is what my Chinese friend told me. Mask at all times you leave your house. She's managed not to be infected.

I'll have a lookgagajo I think it was on the BBC. Were not used to seeing people in this country wearing masks are we? We seem to accept it as the norm from Asian countries because of air quality. My thoughts are and they are only my thoughts that if you see a European wearing a mask you give them a wide berth so with that in mind I'm wearing mine tomorrow when I go out shopping. Its not a proper filtered mask but it's a dust mask. TBH I just want people to steer clear of me I don't believe 2 metres is enough if I'm coughed or sneezed over.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-52126735

This is what I read today gagajo

That is such a good point! Wear a mask to deliberately keep others away.

No, I don't think 2 metres is enough either. If you think about how smoke can drift/spread, cough or sneeze droplets MUST be able to spread further than they've said.

I wore a mask in China when the pollution was bad. I WISH I'd hung on to my masks. Can't get them here, now.

thank you!

With advice and counter advice coming from all corners, and each day bringing some new do's or don'ts, I feel now that the only thing over which I have any real control - regarding my personal health and safety- is my home. That's where I feel safe and that's where my rules can apply. I feel I've read enough information about Covid 19 to last more than one lifetime - and the information just keeps coming. So, whatever precautions I take, I do that based on making myself feel safer and more comfortable. Everyone's view is going to be different.

For me, I don't feel that anything terribly complicated or expensive is involved, other than having access to hot soapy water, bleach and gloves - or poo bags. The only time now when my life at home is interrupted is if we go for a walk or if, every 10 days or so, we need to go to buy food. On those occasions (going into shops or where there will be other people), we both wear gloves and masks. Loads of others here in France do the same. I know that the jury is still out on the wearing of masks, but if nothing else it marks me out as someone who will not welcome anyone breaking the social distancing code or intruding in any way into my personal space. I feel better behind a mask and given the way that in every winter filthy people sneeze and cough and splutter their way around supermarkets without a care in the world and certainly without a single thought as to the effect of their germs on others, it surprises me that I haven't taken to using a mask and gloves years ago.

For us, anything that comes into the house, such as groceries or parcels or post, is opened outside. Paper and card and plastic is disposed of, tins and boxes etc., are wiped with a soapy cloth and allowed to dry before being taken inside and put away.

We have been asked specifically by our local Council that we put masks, gloves, tissues, wipes or anything used outside in public to shield ourselves, or for cleaning, into a separate bag, seal it and leave outside the house until it is time for the dustbin collection. We've been told that the bin men (or however they style themselves now) are becoming increasingly anxious about possibly being contaminated by such waste. So, another small thing we do to make them and ourselves feel better.

I'd really rather not bother with any of this. I'd really rather take the view - as many have said to me until recently - that "it's only a bit of flu, which will soon blow over". But since I can't, as I look at the figures for those who are dying needlessly every day, I am comforted a little by the thought that my home is as safe as I can make it and I do still have some say in making it that way.

Interesting May7. There are more people wearing masks around here in this last week.

I'm on the edge of London. Today, walking the dog on the green, a man crossed my path - at about five metres away. He suddenly stopped in his tracks and sneezed loudly.

As he was carrying two bags of shopping, he couldn't do the elbow thing. It worried me - as the breeze was coming my way. Holding my breath, I turned back!

Yes my thoughts as well. I've always been of the opinion that if they are not properly filtered masks then they are useless really. Backed up by DH who was used to wearing Breathing apparatus RPE. etc . However today I've changed my mind and I will wear one to go out shopping tomorrow just to keep people away from me. I feel at bit ridiculous but hey ho broad shoulders and all that. When I come in I'll wash it in soapy water . It will be dry by the time I go back out next week I might even write BACK AWAY on it. Maybe that's a step too far

Listening to one programme (can't remember which) they were saying they are beginning to think masks may make some additional difference but not because it stops people getting the virus but because it stops those who wear them infecting others.

If this is true for it to work for you everyone else has to wear a mask to protect you. You wear one to protect others. Slightly counter-intuitive but makes sense when you think about it.

I used to wear a good filtered mask when cycling in traffic. Yes, it protected me from some traffic fumes (unbelievable black dirt on it after use) but it made breathing rather difficult!