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Covid Restrictions broken by a Surgeon

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Sugarpufffairy Sun 18-Oct-20 20:10:02

I watched a household which I know is a couple so only 2 people in the house. The couple are not ill in any way. Their adult children and the partner arrived and went into the house. They were there after an hour. I had to go out and they were still there.
We are in Scotland and in one of the high covid areas. Five NHS areas have been told not to go into each others' houses and not to travel to other areas. We are having circuit break just now.
It is bad enough that they visited when we are asked not to visit or enter other houses, but they are both doctors one dealing with very young children.
If NHS staff will not follow the rules what hopes do we have of ever getting out of this situation

janeainsworth Sun 18-Oct-20 20:39:03

Well, you don’t know what is going on in their lives, do you?
There could be some sort of family crisis, or someone could have died.
You remind me of one of Alan Bennett’s Talking Heads.

paddyanne Sun 18-Oct-20 20:48:56

As janeainsworth says.We currently have my MIL staying with us ,shes in her 80's an dhas been living alone since March.She was so depressed and fragile we decided to bring her here.Very glad we did as she has deteriorated a lot since March and this morning fell out of bed resulting in multiple stitches to her head.Maybe my neighbours are gossiping about us..I couldn't care less.We've all stuck with the rules and you have no reason to believe your neighbours haven't.Credit them with some sense

Marydoll Sun 18-Oct-20 20:49:06

I was wondering if someone was ill, (well they are doctors) and they had come to support the occupants.
We never know what is going on in people's lives, do we?

We had a new neighbour who called the police, saying strangers were visiting our cul de sac during lockdown.
I happened to be in the garden when they arrived and got chatting to them.
They asked if anyone who didn't live here had been visiting.
I said my DD and SIL came on a regular basis with my medication and shopping, as I was shielding and as did my neighbour's family.
They looked at each other and one said, You take care of yourself, it must be very difficult for you!

As I said, you never know people's circumstances.

Sugarpufffairy Sun 18-Oct-20 20:49:08

Janeainsworth - And you will know even less of what is going on in their lives

janeainsworth Sun 18-Oct-20 20:53:16

Janeainsworth - And you will know even less of what is going on in their lives

But you do SPF?

Iam64 Sun 18-Oct-20 20:56:33

There's another thread where the OP is complaining about neighbours having visitors. The only time I could imagine calling the police is if my neighbours had a huge, noisy, alcohol fuelled party in clear breach of the guidance.
Otherwise live and let live. As others have said, we are likely to have no idea what is going on in our neighbour's lives. What we do know, is how hard the past eight months have been for all of us. Some tolerance wouldn't go amiss.

EllanVannin Sun 18-Oct-20 21:06:36

I'd be ready to punch someone in the nose if they followed me around. I'm quite uptight with all this lockdown especially when it's others and not me who's created it.

Sugarpufffairy Sun 18-Oct-20 21:41:13

I have known these people for several decades. I also know that this is not the only time they have not complied with various laws and legislation.
I would be absolutely shocked if there was an urgent need for that particular type of medical expertise by people of their age.
I don't follow them around. I didn't speak to anyone in the street today. I mind my own business but they are so loud that they intrude into everyone's lives locally. I was only there for a couple of hours at most. I decided to do lockdown away from there and it is an eyeopener
Punching someone on the nose is not really what a Gran should be doing, or maybe I am wrong there.

Esspee Sun 18-Oct-20 22:11:35

Sugarpufffairy. Step back from the window please.

MaggieTulliver Sun 18-Oct-20 22:20:49

Yes and stop twitching those nets.

Chewbacca Sun 18-Oct-20 22:25:57

It's bringing out the worst in us isn't it?

JenniferEccles Sun 18-Oct-20 22:27:11

Oh how I hate this recent spying on neighbours habit, made even worse in my opinion by coming on here afterwards to relay the tale.

Is this what we have become, a nation of curtain twitchers desperately looking out for neighbours’ misdemeanours?

Families help each other, or at least they should, and occasionally that will mean not sticking rigidly to the latest guidelines.

Hetty58 Sun 18-Oct-20 22:27:46

I'm just astounded by all those who still don't really seem to get it. Is it pure ignorance, extreme timidity - or just being stuck in their ways?

The virus is invisible but I can picture them all turning a blind eye and tolerating anything.

Their neighbours could be posting letter bombs or taking pot shots at them - and still they'd bleat 'Live and let live, mind your own business'!

Doodledog Sun 18-Oct-20 22:28:49

I couldn’t agree more with the last four posts.

Doodledog Sun 18-Oct-20 22:30:02

I knew that would happen grin

Cross posted with Hetty58.

Hetty58 Sun 18-Oct-20 22:39:38

Doodledog, perhaps, if/when you're struggling to breathe, you might change your mind?

Sugarpufffairy Sun 18-Oct-20 22:42:18

I thought we were all meant to be taking care of ourselves and minding out for others, wearing masks and social distancing. In the areas of high covid test results, and this is going on in the highest positive results area in the country, we have been asked not to go into each others houses, not to travel if not necessary and not to go from one NHS area to another.
There are still notices up about how grateful we are meant to be to NHS staff but these ones are taking every risk under the sun. They should be leading by example as should the politicians but we know how they played so badly at following their own party's instructions
I hope one day that we can all return to a normal life but the more people flaunt the rules the less chance we have on getting this virus under control

SueDonim Sun 18-Oct-20 22:57:09

Did you call the police to these people, Sugarpuffairy? That would be the most effective way to stop them, surely?

Chewbacca Sun 18-Oct-20 23:02:36

sugarpuff What about knocking on their door, stand back 2 metres, and ask them? Or pop a note through their door and ask them?

ElaineI Sun 18-Oct-20 23:09:51

What a nasty nosey post this is. I also live in Scotland in one of the high Covid areas. We do essential childcare for both DDs who would not be able to work if we didn't (teacher, nurse and SiL police) - we are not in total lockdown and schools are open, hospitals have patients with other things not Covid and there are still crimes. I also care for my DM, 85 and blind with COPD. We travel out of our town but not the region or they bring the children. This is allowed. I take DD2 to work and pick her up so she doesn't have to go on the bus. It is recommended not to use public transport when you can avoid it by Scottish Government. If I thought someone was spying on me I would report it! No one knows what is happening in another household unless they have bugged the house. Cannot believe this post.

Sugarpufffairy Sun 18-Oct-20 23:35:09

I can hardly be spending all my time spying on the neighbours when I have only been a couple of hours in the house in the last 2 or 3 weeks, now could 1?
On the other hand if this is what I see while only being 2 hours in the house in several weeks how many other times have the rules been broken.
The houses are not the best for soundproofing and if they did not all talk in loud voices no-one would have heard. They are people who have annoyed several households in the area.
I am really glad that I have not been spending the last 7 or 8 months in that setting.
I am surprised that so many people are taking the rules so lightly. People don't want to spend the rest of their lives in various lockdowns or restrictions I would have thought

maddyone Sun 18-Oct-20 23:54:31

Please ignore it Sugarpuff, after all this is over you will still need to live near your neighbours.

Sugarpufffairy Mon 19-Oct-20 00:02:48

Maddyone. I am not going to do anything about it at all. I will wear face masks and gloves outside and keep myself as safe as I can.
I have not lived at that house since just before lockdown in March. I think I lived there so long it was a habit. I have got a holiday house and chose to spend lockdown there. The difference is massive, hugely better at the holiday house. Sadly I do not see myself going back to the previous long term home. It was home for half a century but now it is just a house.
It was something I found to be an eyeopener and a further indication that I should stay at the holiday home more permanently

Hetty58 Mon 19-Oct-20 00:07:49

Sugarpufffairy, I'm glad that you won't have to live near these people.