my support bubble burst!

moggie57 it's a real dilemma and you have to do what you're comfortable with.
Could you meet your daughter and the grandchildren in a local park in the meantime?

V3ra, good idea as meeting outdoors is so much safer. Nobody should feel obligated to visit relatives at Christmas unless they really want to - whatever the rules.

Close contact is usually how the virus spreads, often from asymptomatic younger people to vulnerable older ones.

Support bubbles are supposed to provide support. If you need support find it where you can.

Not all support bubbles involve children. Ours involves another single adult, living alone and working from home. The COVID risk is minimal.

I have always thought and still do that while the rules are there and should be followed. They are a broad brush approach to the circustances of millions of households all in different circumstances and there are going to be occasions when one thinks hard, assesses the risks, and then decides to breach some of the rules.

I did this when DD was ill and we had her home a few days before the introduction of bubbles made it legal and I am doing it now, DS lives 200 miles away and has come down for the weekend to see his DF and support me and, as a result, is staying a couple of nights in the house.

I don't think it's a case of messing you about. They aren't doing it deliberately. Can't you go and visit when the son's at work? Unless of course he's been furloughed...

I have lived alone since my husband died in 2009. I am disabled. The carer I have had since June 2019 comes regularly. I could not do without help.

14 days is not long. It is becoming very difficult for families, especially young ones to cope. It is something no one has experienced before. How can we expect the young adults to know what to do when their world is turned upside down? How do they support you? Presumably you need a bubble because you are housebound anyway, like me, or isolation?

Can you get shopping online? At least in the war people could mingle. Try not to take it that they do not want to see you. Many people, when all this is over with suffer PTSD, and your bubble may well need you to prop them up when that time comes. My children are not near me. I have not seen them in ages. I envy you. I shall be 80 at Christmas, and never know if I will ever see them again.

We actually owe the bubble system to Cummings. If he had not taken his son to his grandparents because he and his wife were having symptoms and were worried that they might collapse and leave the child alone there would not have been the system, because at that point few people - including government science advisors realised that the coronavirus may take some time to make you worse, but some people were collapsing immediately.

It is against the law to leave your child with someone who is not a registered child minder. If you did not have one near you, or they could not take any more children, the only other people legally able to care for children is grandparents. I do not know why Cummings was so hated for doing what he did. No other professional thought of it. Now we can all have a bubble.

But didn't Cummings at some point change his story say that it was actually his sister or nieces who were going to look after the son if necessary???
(That was after it was pointed out that his original excuse, that the elderly parents could look after the child while he and his wife were both ill, didn't hold water, as we had all been told that we mustn't do this!)

So that would also have been illegal then, as they are not grandparents, and presumably not registered childminders?

1lizzie2 and MamaCaz, that only seems to be illegal if it is done for a reward. There are exemptions too.

www.madeformums.com/toddler-and-preschool/could-your-childcare-arrangements-be-breaking-the-law/

I really think that you should put your needs to one side here and see if there is any way you can support your son and his partner ... I’m sure you “ being messed about “ is something that’s not even crossing their minds and neither should it be if they’re having problems ... some people get pretty selfish as they get older so please don’t become one of them

Award for most boring husband.
As we've just spent 2 1/2 weeks self isolating together perhaps my patience has been worn thin.
My husband just popped out to start the car as he'll be back to work tomorrow.
It started no problem despite the snow.
He then went on to describe how with those sort of cars you have to wait for the glow plugs to warm up etc etc etc.......zzzzzzzzzzzz
Am I being unreasonable to have absolutely no interest? ?

shoulddobetta not sure why you have posted this on this thread which has been posted by a poster asking for advice on her support bubble situation?