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Sallywally1 Fri 13-Nov-20 21:14:38

So glad that monster has gone.

Thoughts with the women who died at his hands and their families Richard McCann, in particular, has been outstanding with his forgiveness to the person who murdered his mother.

I remember that time in the 70s when fear stalked the streets, not just in Leeds, but everywhere. Of course now is worse, but perhaps that was the beginning?

Calendargirl Sun 15-Nov-20 07:37:06


It'll please you all to know that you're all paying for its funeral-----out of your tax !

We’ve been paying for his stay in prison for nearly 40 years, so the cost of his funeral will be chicken feed,

I imagine it will be a simple, basic one.

BlueBelle Sun 15-Nov-20 07:52:12

I completely agree anniebach ‘killing someone for killing someone’ is never right, can no one see the screaming parallels State killing is killing if you use the argument that it’s a necessary and warranted killing then Ruth Ellis was only doing the same

The age old question is was Peter sutcliff born evil made evil or some of both, until more research is done into mental health and personality disorders this sort of thing will continue
He wanted to die and has for a long time perhaps still being alive would have been more punishment
I don’t agree with NZ s approach of never saying his name again how else can we remember his victims or justify their deaths or learn anything

Anniebach Sun 15-Nov-20 08:44:04

BlueBelle. We must never bring back the death penalty ,
I agree with your post.

Peter SutCliffe was in Broadmoor for approx 25 years ,

Iam64 Sun 15-Nov-20 09:12:17

Sparkling and BlueBelle, I agree with your posts. There seems to have been the not unusual disagreement between psychiatrists at the time of Sutcliffe's trial about whether we he was psychotic or faking it. My thoughts were similar to Sparkling, people mid psychotic or schizophrenic episodes are ill, their family members, work colleagues spot this. That was not the case with Sutcliffe during his murdering years. One workmate made two reports to the police after being with Sutcliffe on one occasion when an attack took place. The man didn't see the attack but was told about it when Sutcliffe returned to the car.
Sutcliffe is one of those individuals who combined psychotic episodes with personality disorder. People with personality disorder are more likely to suffer other m.h. problems.

petra Sun 15-Nov-20 09:30:17

I believe you've been very active in the Jeramy Bamber case.
Like you, I believe Jeramy is innocent. But if capital punishment were still on the statute books Jeramy would have been hanged.

sodapop Sun 15-Nov-20 13:23:59

There was also some question of Sutcliffe mimicking his wife's symptoms as she suffered from schizophrenia.

Oldwoman70 Sun 15-Nov-20 13:50:37

I don't believe in the death penalty but I do believe those who have been convicted of murder should never be considered for parole. Although sentenced for a full life term many only serve around 15 years, sometimes a lot less.

It may have cost the taxpayer a lot of money to keep Sutcliffe in prison - but it did mean he was not able to kill again, worth it in my opinion.

QuaintIrene Sun 15-Nov-20 13:59:03

My nephew is a funeral director. Everyone is declining to take the funeral on in West Yorkshire. He was approached. In Manchester it was the same with Myra Hindley.

BlueBelle Sun 15-Nov-20 14:07:04

oldwoman I agree that a life sentence is ridiculous if it’s only half a life
I certainly didn’t mean to sound as if I was defending Sutcliffe he deserved all he had but I still don’t think it justifies murdering him I know many people believe in the eye for the eye stuff but I don’t think that it’s ever justified

Atqui Sun 15-Nov-20 14:33:45

Perhaps he would have preferred to die rather than be locked up for 40 years

GillT57 Sun 15-Nov-20 14:35:20

Although the taxpayer may be funding the funeral, it is unlikely to be costing £3000+. I suspect he will be cremated and disposed of with no stone for the weirdos to visit. That's what was done with Brady. I do remember all the reports of his killings, and the fear, and protests, and also that there was more fuss about the 'innocent' victims a bank clerk, and a student I think than there was about the women who were sex workers. Summed up perfectly by that ghastly article by Littlejohn.

sandelf Sun 15-Nov-20 14:42:34

Yup - the eye catching title - never, he was a bestial killer. Press has a lot to answer for.