Afraid to speak out.

Newatthis

Don’t watch it if it offends.

That's not the point.

when was he in it and who was he gay with Maggie ?

He was Gail’s dad. He didn’t know that until 2008 (I’d to google that ) when he got in touch with Audrey again to tell her that his husband had died. I know it’s a long time since (he was in for 2 years), but he’s one of my favourite characters because of the banter with David and with Blanche, who was convinced he and Ken were an item, as they’d go to plays and art exhibitions together. Sorry, I’ve digressed, but I think the Blanche days were Corrie’s finest.

Alegrias1

25Avalon

How about a Pride march for pedants? I'm picky and I'm proud.

Oh yes please to Pride for pedants. I would be able to relax safe in the knowledge that the apostrophes would be in the right place on the banners.

It's always possible to speak your feelings. Of course, it's also possible people might not agree with you.

Watching a soap if you like the story line is perhaps a waste of your valuable time. Watching a soap if you don't like the story line is almost certainly a waste of your valuable time.

Yes agree too many in one soap. However I love it when Sean spins round on his heel, head held and does a huge flounce! Always makes me laugh.

All the gay couples I know are just living together quite happily and normally and nobody else bats an eyelid.

Someone earlier on was talking about gay vicars and parishioners not approving of them having lots of different partners. This is another cliche: that gay, men in particular, are all at it like rabbits with anyone they can find.

They are no different from anyone else and nearly all the ones I know are in longstanding stable partnerships. There are plenty of sexually incontinent heterosexuals as well and you only have to look to the current government to find them.

How is it Gay Pride lasts for a whole month, yet Remembrance Day gets a couple of minutes' silence once a year

That's such a stupid analogy - a bit like asking why Lent lasts for 40 days yet Bonfire Night is only one night; they are nothing to do with each other!

Don’t watch it if it offends.

ExD I agree. I haven't watched any of the soaps for years now, as I felt they were all too "politically correct" with their stories of gays, domestic abuse, drugs, rapes, etc. I want to be entertained by programmes, not subject to the misery that happens in life.

How is it Gay Pride lasts for a whole month, yet Remembrance Day gets a couple of minutes' silence once a year?

25Avalon

How about a Pride march for pedants? I'm picky and I'm proud.

Interestingly very few male footballers have come out as gay. Justin Fashnau was the first and sadly committed suicide. (Alegrias will correct me if I am wrong). If this storyline helps young footballers be able to admit to and be accepted as gay it is good.

My feeling is we should all be accepted for what we are. Straight people get on with life without having to mention their private lives, and gay people should be able to do the same if they want to which most I know do.

Is anyone interested in a “Heterosexual Pride” parade?
Let’s broadcast our sexual preferences far & wide.

As has been said, no idea how not liking particularly storylines in a popular soap is in any way like Hitlers Germany, or Tiananmen Square. That is over-thinking to the extreme.

Soaps are not social commentaries, they are there to entertain and amuse. Writers have a difficult enough job to keep viewers interested. Mind you, part of that interest is surely to give plenty of material for us all to criticise.

So, with regard to Corrie, which I do watch, that individual room at the local hospital, to which any resident of the cobbles goes . The number of residents in a very local prison at any one time, the way ambulances arrive to anything in Coronation Street, within minutes of being called, the local GP practice which never has any wait for an appointment, and Doctors who will come out at a moments notice. Schools which seem to have totally different holiday dates to the rest of the country, jobs which appear so easily - all within the street, banks that are willing to hand over large sums of cash (in used bank notes) without any prior notice or checking. Really - the sexual partnerships of a few of the residents is minor compaired to all of this.

Yes, I know people still find it difficult to accept gay relationships, but that is their privildege and no-one is going to prevent them saying that. Provided, of course, they do actually insult in any way people who are gay.

Everyone's forgot about Roy and Hayley. I know they were not gay but she was a transgender woman and that was a good storyline. I really liked the storyline and it was done sympathetically and well presented.

Yes, it was and I don't think I've watched it since those days.

JaneJudge I did mention to DH that if we have food shortages there are always the pigeons ........

JaneJudge

Interesting re the pigeons and the correct conditions btw. Ours favour a particular fence at 4pm and they even seem to invite friends

Pigeon dogging, hilarious ?

Perhaps the problem is the way you are dividing sexual relationships as normal and not normal. As soon as you do that, you are in danger of equating ‘normal’ with ‘acceptable’ and anything that isn’t ‘normal’ becomes unacceptable.

I prefer to think in terms of ‘some people have opposite sex relationships, some people have same-sex relationships’. I believe that there are more opposite sex couples than same-sex couples, but neither is ‘normal’ or ‘not normal’.

TV has shied away from including same-sex relationships in the past, which made those who have same-sex relationships feel excluded and marginalised. I think it entirely right that there is a genuine attempt to show a wider range of human relationships on mainstream TV now. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Your prejudices, your choice. I hate soaps anyway.

Everyone's forgot about Roy and Hayley. I know they were not gay but she was a transgender woman and that was a good storyline. I really liked the storyline and it was done sympathetically and well presented. As a television soap I liked the characters of Roy and Hayley and it was sad to see Roy lose
the love of his life.
The gays in Corrie don't bother me that much, we know they are in our communities and live their lives the same as others. Two of my gay friends have moved some distance away now to the coast so I do not know any others.
To see two men kissing does make me feel a bit funny but that's what they do so it is what it is.
I read that Carla is going to have a fling with another woman in Corrie but can't remember who they said it was with.

My youngest son is gay. He has been with his partner for fifteen years now and is very happy.

I STILL know people who refer to gay men as 'shirt lifters' and flap a limp wrist when talking about them, so any way of promoting the normality of two people in a loving relationship, no ,after what the sex, is welcome.

The point of the gay footballer story is surely to appeal to the 'man's man' type. The vicar is for the women in the audience. What point there is to Sean, I have no idea

I really cannot see the link between saying you feel uncomfortable about homosexuality and Hitler or China...... No one is going to inter you for your opinions.
Judge you perhaps, but we do that with every person we meet.

I think I am probably very naive and uninformed about racism and so have struggled at times with the coverage on TV. But, because I know I am ignorant of the issues, I do try not to make pronouncements on the subject.

But ‘gay dad’ who ever he was wasn’t in it a month ago? I don’t remember that story line remind me when was he in it and who was he gay with Maggie ? I watch Corrie all the time and started watching with my Nan early 80 s With Ena, Minnie and Martha now there was a trio there have been periods when I ve been away from the shores or may have missed times though, but not since I ve been old and grey it’s my daft indulgence
I think it’s much more ridiculous how many of them end up in the one hospital bed

But does it really matter how many

Not to me. But you asked the question. Perhaps you don’t actually watch Corrie, but Sean’s probably the most established gay character. Paula was in a month ago. “Sophie”’s on maternity leave. Gay dad’s funeral was earlier this year. Hardly 30/40 years ago.

Whoops wrong name I ve just changed you into AD sorry ExD

I just cant see the link from Sean in Corrie to Tiananmen Square.

In Answer to AD s original post Not going to shout you down not going to call you names but think you’re overthinking all this it’s just a story and it mimics real life to a small extent Just like pantomime Dames are over made up to draw attention so do the soaps over egg situations to get your attention I don’t ever feel I can’t speak out over something I don’t agree with but when it comes to sexual things I couldn’t care less or want to know what anyone gets up to just like
they ve no idea what I get up to
Just watch and enjoy or turn off if you don’t

thescend the end
watchjng watching

Sorry. posted while checking

Currently in Corrie we have Todd Billy Sean Paul James and James boyfriend.
I had just remarked on this to my husband at breakfast. And thecend scenes where James showed up and everyone was watchjng and smiling was OTT. (IMO). I have gay friends and relatives. I accept people are gay and I believe everyone should be treated the same regardless of sexual orientation. And yet I still feel funny when I see two people of the same sex kissing.

I hope this doesn't sound as though I'm being argumentative ExD because that's really not my intention.

But in China you can still be sent to "conversion therapy" for being gay. You can be sent to a concentration camp (basically) if you are a particular ethnic minority. The pictures from Tiananmen Square were scary, I thought. In this country, we can say we don't like gay people on TV, and all that happens is you get told off by a few middle aged Grans.

Freedom of speech is really not at stake here.