Binders. The world has gone mad.

What is the obsession on this board about safeguarding children.

Galaxy

What is the obsession on this board about safeguarding children.

I take it you think that's wrong?

Also beyond words that when other cultures do it that's horrific but when western countries do it that's fine.

Hithere

What is the obsession of this board with conforming to the gender you are born into?

Adults can choose to be whatever they want to be.

I was being sarcastic calistemon. I think this board talks about this because they think safeguarding is important. I agree with that concept

People have mentioned the potential damage they can do. This is reduced by using a proper made for purpose binder rather than a home made one. Also, the same sorts of damage are caused by badly fitting bras.

Hithere, are you saying that the ends justify the means.
what about possible bodily harm.
let alone psychological, when there is already so much pressure on young girls re their bodies, and issues of confidence.
this may also tap into those who veer towards anorexia nervosa,
trying to suppress the natural development of the body, shew any curves etc.
do you not see any problem with it at all ?

So the potential damage is reducednot good enough IMO, not nearly good enough.

Galaxy

I was being sarcastic calistemon. I think this board talks about this because they think safeguarding is important. I agree with that concept

I don't know what happened there, Galaxy, I thought it was Hithere who had posted that. A fast-moving thread!

Yes, I agree, safeguarding is of paramount importance, more important than any woke ideas and way above any profits Lush might think they can make from jumping on this particular bandwagon.

I hope their stores are boycotted for their exploitation of children..

VioletSky

People have mentioned the potential damage they can do. This is reduced by using a proper made for purpose binder rather than a home made one. Also, the same sorts of damage are caused by badly fitting bras.

Sigh

Sigh indeed Callistemon, but not surprised.

I’ve never heard of this, Australia tends to be a bit behind some of theses ‘trends’. In this case I am glad. Reminds me of the stays and liberty bodices they had way back when, albeit with a different aim ( or perhaps not ?)

What about heels then?

Should they be forbidden too?

I wouldn't want a child of mine being given heels to wear for hours every day, by an organisation I had never heard of, by people I'd never met.
My child, my rules, and the saying goes.

High heels vs chest binders? In what parallel universe is that the same?

Hithere

What about heels then?

Should they be forbidden too?

Heels?
What's that all about?

Heels are proven to be super harmful and detrimental for health.

Shall they be banned too?

They should be for adults to decide upon.
Not given out to children.

The reality is that heels are available for minors,, just socially acceptable.

This is another transphobic thread

Transphobic? Wha? Where did that come me from?

Much though I find this abhorrent, it is preferable to young healthy girls opting to have double mastectomies. Scottish doctors have sent at least 51 girls/young women to England to have this operation done within the last few years. I have no figures for English or Welsh referrals.
How many of these young women might have accepted they were lesbians or even heterosexual if they had been given time to mature and reflect.
There is a growing chain of thought that exposure to porn is/can be involved in this. Young girls seeing porn and how abjectly the women in heterosexual porn are treated then think “I don’t want to be a woman if that’s what it involves”.
When I first heard this theory I was sceptical but as more and more trans boys and men de-transition, porn and how it portrays women is mentioned by virtually all of them.
Re. Lush and it’s partners; although Stonewall (and perhaps Mermaids) is not mentioned, I’m very confident they will be involved in this.

Hithere, do you really not see any ethical issues in all this.

So we should let girls do this and support them in damaging themselves. If we don't we are transphobic?

I hope Lush fails as a business for this. how the f**k did we get here. ..The absolute hate for women and girls is off the scale.

Hithere

The reality is that heels are available for minors,, just socially acceptable.

This is another transphobic thread

Oh don’t be ridiculous

However I don’t think it is being promoted as something specifically to be done without parental consent.