Binders. The world has gone mad.

wouldn't the very notion of a transwoman being a lesbian be called into question?

According to some posters, no answers means the person questioned has no valid answer. I think I’ll settle for that.

If wearing a binder would make her happier than having sexual intercourse using a binder whilst the boy pressing her to have sex with him gets his condom for free (Trisha at 18.34 20.11.21)

So many stereotypical views expressed here. Yes some boys pressurise girls into having sex but how does wearing a binder impact on that.

Where do trans issues fit? Is the suggestion that some girls bind to avoid sexual harassment? I could be persuaded by that. It also fits with reports I’ve read of teenage girls who are so uncomfortable with their changing bodies, they bind as one way of putting boys off. It brings us to the pressures adolescent boys and girls are under, exacerbated by the pornography thst is all too often their early introduction to sex

If wearing a binder would make her happier than having sexual intercourse using a condom why should she have to pay for her binder whilst the boy pressing her to have sex with him gets his condom for free?
You seem obsessed with the fact that condoms may be accessed for free, but many will be buying their supplies themselves, does that make a difference to you? I would be happy to provide free binders to girls that want them as long as they were dispensed ie fitted and all advice given, by a qualified professional. Why are you so against any qualified supervision? Surely you don't want girls harming themselves by ill-fitting garments worn inappropriately?

As for the boy pressing her to have sex with him gets his condom for free .......well there are so many assumptions in there......hopefully it would be a mutual decision.....girls can initiate sex...... he may have purchased his condoms from a retail outlet..... she may be providing the free condom......but you carry on.

oops should have refreshed after I took a phone call, the points have been made.

Of course not all girls are pressed into sex nor do all girls wear or even want to wear binders. Some of them are, some of them do.
The question of gender and sexuality is interesting. Although for some girls wearing a binder may be a first step to a gender change I think for others it may be linked to sexuality and a girls's need to conceal her body because she feels the signals it gives out to boys do not match her personal level of sexual maturity and so she binds.
It's as much protection as the condom is.

As Iam64 said upthread, that is a possibility; but IMO if that is the case, the resources should be going into educating boys to stop 'pressing' girls into sex, rather than implicitly encouraging them to disguise their growing bodies as a means of repelling them. You know, take some of the responsibility for the problem off women/girls, and let the men/boys step up.

Mollygo Are these the questions you mean?
Do you think it acceptable that something you admit can cause damage, even if it is potentially reversible should be promoted and supplied to underage children by a soap firm?
Why do you always drag Nazis into your posts? It seems as if you can’t back up your claims with anything more present day.

Why is your name a common noun. Was it a spelling mistake like Pollygo or did you think it would make you stand out?

Well 1. I've given a link where they are free-let's spread it!
2. There is a comprehensive answer on this thread
3. No idea what you are talking about.

Sorry - pronouns askew, ironically.

Boys should be educated into not 'pressing' girls into having sex, and we shouldn't implicitly encourage girls to bind their breasts as a means of repelling boys.

I've answered every question you've put to me trisher but you won't answer my questions. I wonder why? Especially those that reiterate that I'm happy for girls to be provided with free binders provided they are dispensed by qualified professionals who will fit them and provide appropriate guidance and why do you not want this pathway? What advantage is there in doing this behind their parents' backs? If parents objected then Gillick competency would come into play.

Well 1. I've given a link where they are free-let's spread it!
I'd ask everyone not to share trisher's link. Amateurs supplying binders to people without any safety checks is not admirable.
I'd also point out your link states that binders are only to be claimed by ftm transitioners, so they're not interested in girls who only want to avoid the male gaze.

*I've answered every question you've put to me trisher but you won't answer my questions. I wonder why?*]
That's just par for the course on these threads, though. Our questions are DEMANDS, but if we don't answer immediately our silence is taken as assent.

trisher

Mollygo Are these the questions you mean?
Do you think it acceptable that something you admit can cause damage, even if it is potentially reversible should be promoted and supplied to underage children by a soap firm?
Why do you always drag Nazis into your posts? It seems as if you can’t back up your claims with anything more present day.

Why is your name a common noun. Was it a spelling mistake like Pollygo or did you think it would make you stand out?

Well 1. I've given a link where they are free-let's spread it!
2. There is a comprehensive answer on this thread
3. No idea what you are talking about.

The first question required a yes or no answer, not a link.

You're very Pro LUSH aren't you Trisher...

Could you explain why you are so hellbent on defending LUSH giving out binders rather than a kid going to someone trained and safeguarded for a binder?

"Amateurs supplying binders to people without any safety checks is not admirable", so well put Rosie51

OnwardandUpward

You're very Pro LUSH aren't you Trisher...

Could you explain why you are so hellbent on defending LUSH giving out binders rather than a kid going to someone trained and safeguarded for a binder?

"Amateurs supplying binders to people without any safety checks is not admirable", so well put Rosie51

Why am I pro-Lush? I've posted a link where binders are free, more use at undermining their trade than any of the posts on this thread I think.

Doodledog

Sorry - pronouns askew, ironically.

Boys should be educated into not 'pressing' girls into having sex, and we shouldn't implicitly encourage girls to bind their breasts as a means of repelling boys.

Of course we shouldn't unfortunately in the real world it happens.

I like Lush. I'm allergic to so much bath stuff. I need to try their shampoo and conditioner bars. So much less waste

Yes, but that problem won't be solved by expecting women to bear the brunt of male failings yet again.

“In the real world that happens”-and some adults support it.

I suggested you might be Pro Lush because you keep defending them even though they are not professionally trained or vetted in order to give out these binders, Trisher.

Violetsky, I am amazed at the amount of synthetic fragrances listed in black with other synthetic ingredients in Lush products while the natural ones are listed in green. (I am a bit gutted as I bought from there for years thinking that everything was natural) I am not sure now what I was buying into but it wasn't what I thought. They discontinued my favourite products in July 2020 and so I will not find it too hard to avoid them. I am happier using more earth friendly products now and less toxic chemicals. foodbabe.com/lush-bath-bombs-not-think/

For the umpteenth time. They just accept delivery to the shop and hand them out. Packaged. No profit to Lush.

They're not taking teenage trans people into a back room and measuring 'em up.

They're not taking teenage trans people into a back room and measuring 'em up.

No they're not even taking that much responsibility are they? They're just dishing them out on behalf of someone else. They've still got dirt on their hands though.

GagaJo

For the umpteenth time. They just accept delivery to the shop and hand them out. Packaged. No profit to Lush.

They're not taking teenage trans people into a back room and measuring 'em up.

Poste Restante, then.
Taking no responsibility whatsoever for facilitating potentially hazardous products to children.

This is pointless

I agree.

Purveyor of smelly bath products appoints itself in loco parentis.

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