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Charging family for Christmas lunch

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Mapleleaf Sat 04-Dec-21 19:14:27

Now, is it just me, and this is the way things are done nowadays so I’m behind the times? Had invitation for Christmas lunch at a family members home, along with other family members, but the person doing the lunch requests all who would like to attend pay them x amount for the privilege, to cover the costs of the food and drink (this includes their parents having to pay, too).

Now, whenever I’ve hosted Christmas lunch, or other events, I’ve never asked the ones I invite to pay for the privilege of eating with me. Some have offered to bring something along - perhaps a dessert, some cheese, a bottle of wine, etc, which was welcome and kind- but this was never an expectation on my part, and I certainly wouldn’t have it as a condition of them being able to come, my view being that I was offering an invitation to join us for lunch or tea, not expecting them to pay or bring something as a condition for coming to it.

I will also add that the people asking for this donation have had, and continue to have, many things given to them without expectation of recompense, over the year, (every year) from many members of the family they are inviting. I think it’s especially poor that they are charging their parents, who always see them “alright” over the year.

Those invited also help with the preparation of the meal and the tidying up afterwards, plus they bring along “extras”.

The ones doing the inviting earn a high income between them - considerably more than those they are inviting to lunch (indeed, the majority are now on a low pension).

They also like to host a buffet and boozy get together on Boxing Day night for their friends and neighbours, using what’s left of the food and drink their family have paid for for their Christmas lunch, which I think is an incredible cheek (or is that just me?) - surely, if there were left overs, those invited for Christmas lunch should be having goody bags to take home left overs for which they have paid, not leaving it as a freebie for these friends and neighbours of the host.

Now, maybe I am being “bah, humbug”, but this charging doesn’t sit easily with me, although many family members have accepted the invitation with this charge (though not everyone).

So, am I being unreasonable to think this is not right, or am I completely old fashioned and behind the times? It’s just I thought such invitations to go to family for lunch were just that - invitations, with no provisos. Therefore, if you can’t afford to host a meal for extended family members, then you don’t offer to host one?

Amberone Wed 08-Dec-21 20:57:02

Beswitched

I think there is a big difference between a family agreeing to share the cost of Christmas Dinner and having it at "Dave and Julie's house because they've got more space /are central to everyone/won't have to disrupt the children "
and

taking it on yourself to invite the extended family and the announcing "that will be 30 quid each please".

I agree.

I get the feeling they are buying in from M&S to cater for a set number and dividing the cost across attendees. I wonder if they will pay for themselves or consider they are hosting and doing the work so don't have to pay.

I agree with M0nica and Beswitched - there is a big difference between

discussing having a large family party with family members but would everybody chip in please to help cover the cost and

sending an invite to a family party along with a request for payment

theworriedwell Wed 08-Dec-21 21:45:02

I was assuming your cold picnic for 20 wasn't Christmas lunch unless you are in a hot country so again not really relevant to the UK.

Well lets say the host worked out the shopping bill, I've got mine on Sainsbury's now for delivery on the 23rd and know what it is going to cost. Then they divide it by how many are attending, lets say for arguments sake the shopping is £200 and ten people are attending then saying we are doing Christmas lunch, if you'd like to come your contribution to food and drink will be £20. What's wrong with that?

The OP says they have a high income but does she know what outgoings they have, their mortgage, car payments and all the other things they will pay. No doubt the people on low pensions have low outgoings as well.

Maybe no one else in the family can do it due to size of home or whatever and they are thinking let's invite the oldies and the lonelies, does that mean they have to pay for everything?

Where does it say it was a demand, where was the gun to the head, they were invited and told what their contribution would be. Not charge by the way but contribution that was requested not demanded. Presumably they aren't charging a vast amount as many of the attendees bring something along as well so they must think it is a good deal.

The OP is confusing anyway, this is all such a shock being asked for money but then we are told that the food they are paying for is used for a Boxing Day party. Well how does she know that unless this is normal for them and if it is normal why is it a surprise? She also knows about helping to prep and clear up, again this is clearly something that has happened before, not a one off but this young couple are expected to subsidise everyone for multiple years?

I tell you what the OP and other guests should just pig out and leave nothing, make sure they get their monies worth because God forbid that someone who has had you to their home, provided you with a nice day and company might have a bit of turkey or half a bottle of red left over.

M0nica Wed 08-Dec-21 23:23:23

I think it is a waste of time us continuing this dialogue, theworriedwell

As i have said several times 'itnis not what you do but the way that you do it - and even if I was asking for financial contributions, I just wouldn't do it the way this couple are doing it.

Beswitched Thu 09-Dec-21 09:00:19

theworriedwell

I was assuming your cold picnic for 20 wasn't Christmas lunch unless you are in a hot country so again not really relevant to the UK.

Well lets say the host worked out the shopping bill, I've got mine on Sainsbury's now for delivery on the 23rd and know what it is going to cost. Then they divide it by how many are attending, lets say for arguments sake the shopping is £200 and ten people are attending then saying we are doing Christmas lunch, if you'd like to come your contribution to food and drink will be £20. What's wrong with that?

The OP says they have a high income but does she know what outgoings they have, their mortgage, car payments and all the other things they will pay. No doubt the people on low pensions have low outgoings as well.

Maybe no one else in the family can do it due to size of home or whatever and they are thinking let's invite the oldies and the lonelies, does that mean they have to pay for everything?

Where does it say it was a demand, where was the gun to the head, they were invited and told what their contribution would be. Not charge by the way but contribution that was requested not demanded. Presumably they aren't charging a vast amount as many of the attendees bring something along as well so they must think it is a good deal.

The OP is confusing anyway, this is all such a shock being asked for money but then we are told that the food they are paying for is used for a Boxing Day party. Well how does she know that unless this is normal for them and if it is normal why is it a surprise? She also knows about helping to prep and clear up, again this is clearly something that has happened before, not a one off but this young couple are expected to subsidise everyone for multiple years?

I tell you what the OP and other guests should just pig out and leave nothing, make sure they get their monies worth because God forbid that someone who has had you to their home, provided you with a nice day and company might have a bit of turkey or half a bottle of red left over.

If they host a buffet the following day on the leftovers it sounds like a lot more than a bit of turkey and some wine left in the bottle.

If someone contacted me and said "listen a few of us are chipping in to save the costs of Christmas Dinner and are going to have it at my house, would you like to join?" that would be fine. But I don't get the impression that has happened here.
And in that case the food belongs to everyone. If there are substantial leftovers they should be divided up.

I'm not talking about quibbling over a couple of slices of ham, or a few cocktail sausages.
But unopened booze, lots of Christmas pudding, half a turkey, unused cheeses etc should at least be offered around, not squirelled away for one family's use.

Poppyred Thu 09-Dec-21 09:50:14

M0nica

I think it is a waste of time us continuing this dialogue, theworriedwell

As i have said several times 'itnis not what you do but the way that you do it - and even if I was asking for financial contributions, I just wouldn't do it the way this couple are doing it.

Exactly!

Pepper59 Thu 09-Dec-21 10:29:11

It will never happen in my house. There is no way Id charge anyone for a meal in my house. What next? Charging for christenings, birthday parties, all celebrations? If someone wants to bring a dish or a drink fair enough, but I would never charge my guests. If ever I receive an invitation where I will be charged for my meal in someones home, it will be politely declined and I won't be back. They won't be round at mine eating for free either, yet charge their own guests at their house. No thanks. If you really can't afford it, don't invite people or discuss with them and ask them to bring a dish or bottle of something.

Dickens Thu 09-Dec-21 10:38:15

M0nica

I think it is a waste of time us continuing this dialogue, theworriedwell

As i have said several times 'itnis not what you do but the way that you do it - and even if I was asking for financial contributions, I just wouldn't do it the way this couple are doing it.

I think you are right M0nica

... there's even a song about it, "It Ain't What You Do But The Way That You Do It" grin.

theworriedwell Thu 09-Dec-21 17:14:14

M0nica

I think it is a waste of time us continuing this dialogue, theworriedwell

As i have said several times 'itnis not what you do but the way that you do it - and even if I was asking for financial contributions, I just wouldn't do it the way this couple are doing it.

So how would you do it differently? They invited OP to a Christmas meal and requested a contribution from everyone to cover costs. I'm not sure how else you could ask for a financial contribution other than asking for a financial contribution. Telepathy?

Beswitched Thu 09-Dec-21 17:17:31

Well maybe start with the suggestion that you all club together to buy the food, and then offer your house as the venue.
Would you like to come to us for Christmas Dinner?
Oh yes thank you.
Great. Now you have to pay towards it and we've decided this amount

is rude.

multicolourswapshop Fri 10-Dec-21 08:41:54

I hold a family get together in the form of a bbq every July and I wouldn’t dream of asking anyone for money to help pay for the food I just love to see everyone enjoy themselves. Some will bring a bottle or two some will bring flowers but that’s about it. I’m fortunate enough to be able to afford this large gathering otherwise I couldn't hold it occasionally the bbq lasts well into a second day which gives family from far afield (Australia) time to socialise it’s great fun to see grandchildren mix in the garden playing football with each other leaving the adults to watch and guess who’s who. All I ask is that the weather is good on that special weekend. Unfortunately our gazebo blew away this year and that’ll be an extra cost for us but it’ll be well worth it.

Good luck all who think asking for money for a family meal is the correct thing to do you’ll soon lose friendships to my way of thinking

Beswitched Sat 11-Dec-21 08:32:51

I also find it so hard to believe that anyone would charge their own parents for Christmas Dinner, when they can easily afford to feed them. I would be so hurt and greatly disappointed that I had raised such an ungenerous child.

Dickens Sat 11-Dec-21 08:54:57

Beswitched

I also find it so hard to believe that anyone would charge their own parents for Christmas Dinner, when they can easily afford to feed them. I would be so hurt and greatly disappointed that I had raised such an ungenerous child.

... that's the bit that got me, too.

And I think it gives a little glimpse into the mind-set of the individuals hosting the dinner.