Is a Brit entitled to an opinion ...

Kali2 does love to stir the pot frequently though.
I think that’s the main difference between her and others in a similar situation.
I think she’s a bit of a Marmite character!

Anyway we may as well stop adding to the thread. Kali2 has done with it she said. I’m out too now.
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Others may want to contribute more, though.

It ain't over until it reaches 1,000 posts

Callistemon21

^I don't see them being subjected to pile ons every time they post^

Perhaps because they are reasonable and their posts are not offensive?
Just a thought.

Exactly!

Callistemon did you not see the pics I posted -a selection from many news reports available?
These were from Sky News, the Guardian and the Telegraph.
Faced with the enormity of what is going on in Ukraine, though nobody should be surprised that these stories are being pushed off the front pages.

Kali2 the French elections aren't until April as you know, so why talk in this obscure hypothetical way?

If your complaint is that while domiciled in England you (and many like you) are not entitled to vote in France despite your dual nationality, and you want opinions for and against that situation, please say so clearly. Not that there is anything that we we in the UK can do about it.

I don't see this as having anything to do with discrimination, race or Brexit.

Off the top of my head I'm inclined to think that people should be entitled to vote in only one country, and that should be the country where they pay their taxes.

Or perhaps start a separate thread on the French electionss though I don't suppose many of us have been following it very closely.

ComeonEileen

Callistemon did you not see the pics I posted -a selection from many news reports available?
These were from Sky News, the Guardian and the Telegraph.
Faced with the enormity of what is going on in Ukraine, though nobody should be surprised that these stories are being pushed off the front pages.

I wasn't suggesting front page reports, main items of news.
Most people seem unaware.

Just five minutes at the end of the main news.
I have seen pictures, DD sent me plenty, thank you though.

I'm pretty sure kali isn't French.

If your complaint is that while domiciled in England you (and many like you) are not entitled to vote in France despite your dual nationality, and you want opinions for and against that situation, please say so clearly. Not that there is anything that we we in the UK can do about it.

I think that Kali is Swiss, not French winterwhite and British also. The confusion seems to have arisen because she said she has lost all her rights to join a French Grans Forum for some reason.

Hey ho, here we go, losing sight of what really matters!!
Again.
Groundhog Day as another poster said.

Maybe not, Kitty, but I wish Kali that you would say what you mean. You're playing fast and loose with our time.

Callistemon21

Others may want to contribute more, though.

It ain't over until it reaches 1,000 posts

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Total waste of time.

My inclination is that some people have a chippy and combative nature which often morphs into a persecution complex. I would ask myself if I'm at daggers drawn with some of the people some of the time, maybe not unusual but a majority of the people most of the time .........well?

I had a boss like that, he'd often ask in a rhetorical way, having crossed swords with his wife, employees, clients even for the umpteenth time "Is it me?" the tedium of it because I knew him well, situated in an adjacent office shouted my response "yes definitely you!" and slammed the door before he could reply.

Terribull!!
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Slamming the door is such a good idea!

As a Brit living in France...
1. I am a migrant not an expat. An expat is somebody working abroad for a company who will return to their home country when the job is done.
2. I think I remain pretty well informed about UK issues and I reserve the right to comment based on my understanding from a variety of sources including close family. I expect to be corrected if my information is factually incorrect.
3. I like living in France, I do not consider it perfect, but I will argue strongly against negative perceptions based on biased or wrong information from dubious sources.
4. This all feels like irrelevant navel gazing given what is happening in the world at the moment.

ComeonEileen

Oh give it a rest Kali2
Even dead horses stop being flogged eventually.

Thanks for that. Sooooo funny ?

Mamie
I always enjoy your posts. You’ve often given us a true and honest perspective of the way things are in France, thank you.

Haven't read the whole thread, but a quick google revealed that France has the most liberal attitude of any country to citizens living abroad and their voting rights. So what is the point of this thread? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_expatriates_to_vote_in_their_country_of_origin

The point of this thread is OP having a dig.

Thank you MerylStreep.
Actually the things I like least about France are the food (up its own backside and boring) and the fashion (very nice but what's it for?).
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nanna8

One of the reasons we left was the lousy weather, we were sick of not having a proper Summer. There are so many other good things in the uk though. I am totally envious of all the wonderful old buildings and old ,old objects. Fabulous works of art, the humour, the pubs. We have nothing like it here. Of course we have different things,as do other countries and I love my country and ( most) of my countrymen. Just now I feel proud of all those ‘earth angels’helping people cope with the flooding which they are not reporting on over there for some reason. It is the worst since about the 1870s apparently. Absolute disaster.

How much coverage has there been in Australia of the storms we in the NE of Scotland have experienced this Winter? Btw, I know about the floods in your country, it’s been covered here in the news.

Callistemon ''The confusion seems to have arisen because she said she has lost all her rights to join a French Grans Forum for some reason.''

you've got completely the wrong end of the stick here. I attempted to put the boot, as it were, on the other foot, so it can be looked at from a different angle- a British person who arrived in another country as a kid and lived all her life there - and then moved back in retirement for a while, and still feels very French, or whatever- and concerned to see what is happening to her country of adoption- where all her close family still is. And then being told, on a GN Forum in France, or whatever country that person lived all her adult life, that she is not entitled to say how disappointed and more, to what is happening to that country, under a new Government which is changing all the good and wonderful things she admired.

Thanks for you post Mamie- did you arrive in France as a teenager? Did you get French nationality after a few years? Are vou married to a French man and have French children. Do you have a French Uni Degree? I believe you don't, and with due respect (and in this case I do mean it as such) - a very different situation.

This is not about France, or Switzerland- just an example.

I can’t say I have come across any uk haters but maybe I have missed something. Haters is a strong word and a rather odd way of describing people. Don’t want to be boring but we have 4 seasons here. The weather ranges from about 3C in Winter to about 42C in Summer. Australia is a very big country, covers different time zones and many different types of weather from tropical down to very similar temperatures to the warmer parts of the uk . Tasmania is not usually that hot and neither are parts of Victoria. In Winter we huddle up over fires

Oopsadaisy1

Does any other country refer to itself as ‘Expats’ apart from the British? if we go to live abroad surely we become Immigrants.

I’d be interested to hear if other nations refer to themselves as Expats if they move abroad?

Yes, they do. We were ‘expats’ in Indonesia and West Africa. We were there on a limited time scale and maintained contacts with the UK.

There were Australia and NZ, S African, American, French, Israeli, Zimbabwean, Venezuelan, Brazilian, Ghanaian, Chinese and more people there. They all regarded themselves as expats because they all intended to either move on to another country or return to their original country eventually.

Otoh, my son in America isn’t an expat. He’s been there 20 years this year and is a dual-citizen. Although he’s an avid consider of news and current affairs he does feel distanced from the UK now. Likewise my French DIL who had been in the UK for 20+ years also feels distanced from France now. She’s always glad to return to the UK, she says.

nana8, I have said it again, and some more- I fell in love with England, lock, stock and barrel- and have been a huge lover of this amazing country all my life.

But I hate what is happening to it- what has happened since the campaign for the Referendum, all the lies, fraud, Russian interference and how the Conservative Party are up to their neck in dirty Russian money, illegal behaviour by this Governement, ever since Johnson has been in power.

And I have said it before, it is BECAUSE I love England so much, and chose to live there for all my adult life, and still have all my close family there - that I feel so strongly about it.
I feel it very strongly and personally - BECAUSE I so admired to England, the UK, stood for.

As said, since 1970, I have never ever felt any discrimination in the way I have felt here on so many occasions. The point of this thread was to say ' I would you feel, as a British born and bred person who moved to another country as a teenager- and after 50 years, you were told you have no right to feel that what is happening is wrong, sad, and a true blight on this wonderful country.

Simple.

If asked for an opinion discretion should be used. Who is asking at the forefront having put my foot in it on more than one occasion