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Ungrateful nieces querying grandfather's will

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Jannabell Sat 12-Mar-22 20:39:27

AIBU? I am executor of my late fathers will, which he changed in 2019, over 2 years before his death, and a year after my brother died. I will be distributing the estate next week, and asked all the grandchildren (the two girls and my two sons) for their bank details. Almost immediately my late brother's daughters asked for a copy of the will, which I told them I would be sending with the letter and payment next week, but that the 4 grandchildren would be getting 10% each and gave them the figure they would receive. I think they thought they would be getting more - they are now querying how could he have done that when he didn't always recognise people......neither of them ever visited him, which is why he didn't always know who they were in photographs. I am furious - I suggested he should give them 10% rather than the 5% he had been contemplating....I really wish I had left things alone and not allowed him to change his will, as I would have inherited everything then, but I genuinely thought I was doing the right thing..........

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 18:03:14

?

Well, at least they're getting a slap up meal as well.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 14-Mar-22 18:09:33

It's too complicated for me. I give up (rather as OP did after starting each thread).

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 18:12:10

Germanshepherdsmum

It's too complicated for me. I give up (rather as OP did after starting each thread).

Would a family tree help?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 14-Mar-22 18:20:31

It might. Is one available?

Jane43 Mon 14-Mar-22 18:21:28

Poppyred

Callistemon21

because she obviously wants things kept private
But posted it on the internet.

Exactly! And isn’t coming back to explain herself by all accounts.

When I said she wants things kept private I meant the details and I can see why she would at such a difficult time.

Jane43 Mon 14-Mar-22 18:25:44

Callistemon21

^We don’t know when the original will was made, which I understand left everything to Jannabel^

She hasn't said that as far as I know - she left us to assume that her brother would have inherited half but he died, then her father changed his will and left everything to her.
If that is what he wanted, fair enough, but if the original will was set u properly there would have been no need for new one.

The don't sound like a very close family and it's all academic now anyway.

I read it in a completely different way because she said she wished the original will hadn’t been changed, the will in which everything would have gone to her. She said the original will was made before the son died and when he died her father decided he wanted to leave his children something.

paddyann54 Mon 14-Mar-22 18:34:17

I got the impression she thought when her brother died everything would have come to her then her dad changed it to give his GD's an inheritance,Maybe she wasn't aware her brothers share would have gone to his girls .

Allsorts Mon 14-Mar-22 19:27:22

My will states that if my children die, their share of my estate goes to their children, my grandchildren.

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 19:47:17

paddyann54

I got the impression she thought when her brother died everything would have come to her then her dad changed it to give his GD's an inheritance,Maybe she wasn't aware her brothers share would have gone to his girls .

That's how I read it.

But I'm beginning to lose the will to be interested
(No pun intended)

Jannabell Mon 14-Mar-22 20:51:26

Jane43

Poppyred

Callistemon21

because she obviously wants things kept private
But posted it on the internet.

Exactly! And isn’t coming back to explain herself by all accounts.

When I said she wants things kept private I meant the details and I can see why she would at such a difficult time.

Thanks and apologies to everyone who commented, whether kind or not. I have been rather busy sorting out everything which explains why I haven't answered all the posts. I have now calmed my nieces down. I think this shows that no matter how nice you think your direct family members are, when money rears its ugly head then you see them in their true colours. Sad but that is life I suppose. I posted on here as I have seen how kind most people are, and it is private as you don't know my real identity. I am just a disabled granny who tries to do the best for the family within my capabilities.
I won't trouble you all again.

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 22:30:56

I think we were all kind on your other thread, Janabell but this situation is puzzling and many questions unanswered.

Smileless2012 Mon 14-Mar-22 23:16:11

You've carried out your father's wishes Jannabell, At your suggestion, your nieces were left more than they would have been.

You're grieving for your father and have the additional responsibility of being the executor of his estate. You shouldn't have to be calming your nieces down at such a difficult time.

My sincere condolences for your loss and I hope you'll be given the space you need to come to terms with your lossflowers.

VioletSky Tue 15-Mar-22 08:36:23

Jannabell your neices may have been thinking the same thing, that their fathers share is gone and that you were part of that as it has gone to you.

Which is an understandable thought evidenced by all the replies to you saying they would have done things differently.

So maybe you can meet them in the middle with the truth that father was intending to leave them less but understand how some would view that as unfair...

No one really ungrateful or money grabbing here, just grieving and hurt circumstance meant their side of the family lost out

Dickens Tue 15-Mar-22 09:00:17

mokryna

Dickens I am not criticizing you but these were his granddaughters who had lost their father, his son, not nieces nor cousins.

The OP is the aunt of the two grandchildren who are querying the amount inherited, and as she is the author of the post, she's referred to them as her nieces. Obviously, they are the deceased's grandchildren.

We only know what we've been told by the OP. We don't know the dynamics of the family, nor why the grandfather apportioned the inheritance the way he did, neither do we know why he changed his Will.

I'm not quite sure of the point you are making.

karmalady Tue 15-Mar-22 09:05:26

If my son dies before me, then his share of my will goes to my grandchildren, he does not have children. I will leave his partner a few £k but as a gift to her rather than an inheritance. It also means that my house gets passed on tax free as it would go to direct descendants

Juno56 Tue 15-Mar-22 13:21:08

I have read this interesting thread with sadness and gratitude that a similar situation in my own family was very different.
My aunt was unmarried and childless and an earlier will left her estate equally divided between her brother and two sisters. I do not think her siblings' children were mentioned in the earlier will and some of us hadn't been born. My uncle and one of her sisters (my mother) predeceased her so she made a new will. The new will left a percentage of her estate to charity and small bequests to her eight nieces and nephews with the (quite substantial) residue going to her surviving sister who gave her wonderful love and care during her final illness and indeed her whole life. It seemed entirely fair to us cousins that my aunt should dispose of her estate this way but even if we hadn't thought it fair it was her decision. When I received the bequest I was incredibly touched to also receive a note from my deceased aunt reminiscing about my mother and hoping that I would spend the gift on something pleasurable.
Jannabel my sincere condolences on your loss. You have carried out your Father's wishes, as executor it was your responsibility to do so. I am sorry that this sad situation has been made so difficult. My best wishes.

Rosie51 Wed 16-Mar-22 12:12:34

Juno56 that's exactly how it should be. Everyone respecting that your aunt bequeathed her estate how she wanted, and everyone grateful for the bequest they received. I think the accompanying letter was so very thoughtful.

Smileless2012 Wed 16-Mar-22 14:37:42

Your family handled that situation with dignity and respect Juno; it's a pity all families don't behave as they should.

Beanutz2115 Sat 19-Mar-22 00:15:03

My brother died in Dec 2021 and the executor is a solicitor, her expenses, the cost of the house clearing, auction of furniture and sale of the house will all have to come out of the estate. Then after the death duties beneficiary payments and taxes have been paid I will get the remainder. I estimate that these costs will amount to about £70.000-£100.000.