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I am confused........

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Franbern Tue 31-May-22 12:30:14

Okay, I will not be taking part in any celebrations this coming week. Me and my whole family are firm and committed republicans.

However, I am still confused as exactly what we are supposed to be celebrating

The queen became such at the beginning of February 1952 - upon the death of her father. The Coronation was held 18 months later on 2nd June 1953. So......this coming weekend is five months too late for the first and a year short for the second.

what am I missing???

Nanny27 Thu 02-Jun-22 11:44:28

I'm assuming that all those who describe themselves as republicans would celebrate the presidency of a certain Mr Johnson.
An apolitical sovereign has been a very stable influence over the years of political turmoil in this country.

kevincharley Thu 02-Jun-22 11:47:08

volver

Whisper...

Do you think we could make this a "down with jubilees" thread without somebody coming along to tell us how miserable and ungrateful we are?

No,
How you can fail to be impressed watching the Trooping of the Colour is beyond me.
And, if people want to enjoy the celebrations, let them, without being the fly in the ointment.

kevincharley Thu 02-Jun-22 11:52:52

Franbern Why are you confused? Would you have preferred a BH in February?

HRH has an official birthday too. Is that also confusing? wink

Aepgirl Thu 02-Jun-22 11:54:49

Well said, toscalily. As I posted the other day - what a grumpy lot some of the GNs are.

Fae1 Thu 02-Jun-22 12:00:05

Agreed 100%!

GraceQuirrel Thu 02-Jun-22 12:08:11

“Committed republicans”

angry

Long live the queen.

Secretsquirrel1 Thu 02-Jun-22 12:29:28

I like the Queen and the monarchy for the tradition but am fine with other UK citizens who aren’t fans.
My sister has lived abroad in a republic for 30 odd years and when she off slags the Queen and goes on about the fact it should be a republic, it pisses me off a bit for some reason lol ?

Tinydancer Thu 02-Jun-22 12:37:22

I think the monarchy is outdated but have just watched the Queen appear on the balcony with the Duke of Kent. Felt a bit sad to see how old he looks now and wondered if he was in good health.
I wont be flag waving or going to any jubilee events. The comment about the frenzy of worship or that's my interpretation, being like Butlins in the 60s made me smile. Especially trifle served in the canteen st 10 am. Felt like we have gone back in time. Mixed feelings, wish her all the best but I feel it perpetuates the class system so beloved by all in this country but harms do many including those who love it.

Treetops05 Thu 02-Jun-22 12:47:45

I am preparing to duck but I admire the Queen, I think she's done a great job - there are members of her family I think are a waste of space but I'm proud of her. Having said that, we won't be celebrating the jubilee or attending anything...more time in the garden for me, OH will be glued to sport on TV and my FinL will be reading...

Bridgeit Thu 02-Jun-22 12:48:27

There will never be equality , look around the world at the poverty & corruption .
Equality & fairness does not exist . Never has , it never will
Doesn’t make a scrap of difference if it is Communist ,socialist
or anything in between … we can only help where we can & support those who endeavour to make a difference when & where they can.

Aveline Thu 02-Jun-22 12:55:08

Hear hear Bridget

Bridgeit Thu 02-Jun-22 13:00:48

Thank you.

Pantglas2 Thu 02-Jun-22 13:17:28

It must be galling beyond belief to the antis to see the celebrating crowds in London today, real craw sticking stuff - fair cheers the hearts of those of us enjoying it all ??

Never mind, it’ll be all done and dusted by Sunday evening- as you were folks!

Bankhurst Thu 02-Jun-22 13:19:29

What are we supposed to be grateful for?

Bridgeit Thu 02-Jun-22 13:27:58

I must have missed comments about being ‘ grateful’
Can you enlighten me please .

sazz1 Thu 02-Jun-22 13:39:03

I'm definitely a republican but the parades can stay as they are part of our history. The sooner we get rid of the royal family the better. Why should anyone bow and curtsey to anyone else? Or pay tax to support them? Benefit scroungers all of them and not a great example to the people. Just look at Andrew, Charles and Camilla for a start. And what kind of mother pays to keep their son out of court on underage sex charges? He was also a great friend to Jimmy Saville too. No respect for the queen anymore after that.

hilz Thu 02-Jun-22 13:42:13

We won't be going to any large celebrations, still concerned about mixing but I think its fantastic that a 96 year old woman can command such attention. The revenue earnt by businesses after leaner times is to be applauded. I love the pagentry the pomp and the ceremony and have huge respect for the Queen and her long reign. My grandaughter has no interest at all and is looking forward to just enjoying the bank holiday. Each to their own but what ever our thoughts or opinions history is being made and once this reign is over we may never ever have a Monarch who reigns this long and thats a mind blowing fact.
Have a lovely bank holiday everyone.x

Bridgeit Thu 02-Jun-22 13:45:48

Lovely post Hilz,
Hope you too have a good weekend ???

Gwenisgreat1 Thu 02-Jun-22 13:46:22

I am a royalist and love the pomp and ceremony that goes with the Royal Family. I would have loved a street party, but apparently there isn't going to be one - Boo-hoo!

kjmpde Thu 02-Jun-22 14:06:35

i am not a royalist but I can't see the problem with the celebrations. As far as i know she has worked well past what many would call retirement age. She has never been on strike nor has she had maternity leave etc. She has had to make small talk with some horrible people and attend functions that would make my brain curl. Yet always with a smile. The 4 kids have caused problems and then there is the turmoils of some of the grandkids. Surely you can see the celebration of the woman that was not born to her role but has always done it. I am told she is the longest reigning monarch in the world . So surely even a republican can see the reason for celebrations ?

M0nica Thu 02-Jun-22 14:24:42

Longest reigning current monarch but, at the moment she is only third longest in history. She will be second longest in under a fortnight when her reign becomes longer than that of the late King Bhumibol of Thailand (1946-2016).

The longest reigning monarch anywhere, any time is King Louis IV of France, 1643-1715, who reigned for 72 years and three months.

Our Queen has to live just under two more years to be the longest serving monarch ever, I hope she does! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-reigning_monarchs

volver Thu 02-Jun-22 14:24:52

kevincharley

Franbern Why are you confused? Would you have preferred a BH in February?

HRH has an official birthday too. Is that also confusing? wink

Of course it is.

Who needs two birthdays?

volver Thu 02-Jun-22 14:29:07

kevincharley

volver

Whisper...

Do you think we could make this a "down with jubilees" thread without somebody coming along to tell us how miserable and ungrateful we are?

No,
How you can fail to be impressed watching the Trooping of the Colour is beyond me.
And, if people want to enjoy the celebrations, let them, without being the fly in the ointment.

Why do you think I'm not impressed by Trooping the Colour?

If people want to enjoy the celebrations, let them.

Perhaps those enjoying the celebrations can stop slagging off those who dont?

volver Thu 02-Jun-22 14:30:56

Nanny27

I'm assuming that all those who describe themselves as republicans would celebrate the presidency of a certain Mr Johnson.
An apolitical sovereign has been a very stable influence over the years of political turmoil in this country.

How many times?

If this is the standard of debate among monarchists, bring on a republic, pdq.

volver Thu 02-Jun-22 14:56:15

Bridgeit

There will never be equality , look around the world at the poverty & corruption .
Equality & fairness does not exist . Never has , it never will
Doesn’t make a scrap of difference if it is Communist ,socialist
or anything in between … we can only help where we can & support those who endeavour to make a difference when & where they can.

Sorry love, you can give up on equality of opportunity if you like but some of us think it's something worth standing up for.