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To wonder why famous people feel they have to over share personal stuff

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TerriBull Sun 08-Jan-23 14:15:49

No not another one about Harry!

I was just reading an article about Katherine Ryan stand up comic, bantering with Jonathan Ross, never a good idea given his track record. I stopped watching him ages ago I really don't like him. Anyway back to Katherine Ryan, admittedly I've only ever seen her on WDYTYA so I can't say whether she's funny or not It was reported among other things , she said this "her husband would sometimes abandon her to play golf as she has only 3 holes as opposed to 18" If a man said that I'd regard him as a sexist pig, so is it any better to hear that from a woman. Personally I don't think so, nor do I find such crassness remotely funny, just poor taste.

I'd be interested to know what others think.

GoldenAge Mon 09-Jan-23 17:38:47

Many years ago when I laughed at Billy Connolly until my sides ached, I realised that some of his jokes were both vulgar and included the 'f' word, but nonetheless tickled me. However, it was only 'some' of his jokes and many others were clever uses of spontaneous wit. Unfortunately with the vast majority of 'modern' comedians, there's an over-reliance on the 'f' word to get laughs - why? and also unfortunately, Sarah Millican in particular over-uses this which places her in the category of untalented, at least for me. I do believe that we don't have to watch TV and we have the power to switch off which is why the Jonathan Ross show gets that treatment together with other so-called 'funny' but very unfunny shows. I do miss Ronnie Barker and of course, Victoria Wood!

Casdon Mon 09-Jan-23 17:40:30

Its nothing to do with oversharing, just a joke. I think she’s just playing to her audience, which isn’t the sort of people who find her comments offensive. If you don’t find somebody funny don’t watch is my motto. I turn Jimmy Carr off the minute he comes on TV.

Nightsky2 Mon 09-Jan-23 17:50:17

GrannyGravy13

Ailidh

I would love a good pearl necklace. No vulgarity implied.

I have my Grandmas, I have had to have it restrung, my mum brought me pearl stud earrings for my 40th, I often wear them.

I can’t stand Jonathan Ross or Sarah Millican and I have no idea who KR is. I don’t think I’m missing anything.

I wear pearl studs most days and I have some lovely pearl necklaces but I never feel the need to clutch them. I bought my DiL a lovely pair of pearl studs for her 40th, and I have seen her wear them, she’s not superstitious.

I like or used to like,

Dawn French,
Jennifer Saunders.
Caroline Ahern
Catherine Tate
Frankie Howard
Les Dawson
Lee Mack
The 2 Ronnies

Eloethan Mon 09-Jan-23 18:58:27

HowVeryDareYou Not one woman you find funny? Which men do you find funny then?

I am not a fan of Kathryn Ryan or her kind of humour, which is often quite crude and cold. I don't consider myself to be overly prudish and can enjoy edgy humour if it is not done just for effect - which I believe a lot of it is. Billy Connolly could be quite outrageous at times but the context always made it feel natural and funny - to me anyway.

In my opinion, Victoria Wood, Julie Waters, June Whitfield, Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders, Sara Pascoe and Jo Brand (to name but a a few) are/were funny.

Callistemon21 Mon 09-Jan-23 19:19:18

I agree, apart from Jo Brand (but yes, sometimes).

There is something about Katherine Ryan I find extremely off putting but I've rarely seen her, mainly on HIGNFY.

Nannashirlz Mon 09-Jan-23 23:52:26

No any woman that is trying to be a man with vile jokes ain’t funny to me more cringe worthy and remote turn over lol

Wyllow3 Tue 10-Jan-23 00:32:57

What do you mean "trying to be a man with vile jokes? I dont understand. You mean misogynistic ones?

Tamayra Tue 10-Jan-23 02:56:55

Who was that really funny woman comedian who passed over
She wore specs & was clumsy
But so endearingly funny smile

FannyCornforth Tue 10-Jan-23 08:01:05

Re Jo Brand. My friend and I went to see her around 1992. (Over 3O years ago! shock)
She was absolutely dreadful.
We walked out after 30 minutes and went to Pizza Hut.
I’m sure that she would have approved!

I loved her series Getting On.
That was brilliant

hilz Tue 10-Jan-23 08:19:25

Not sure that she was over sharing..simply a joke that many of us may feel was distasteful and many of us would roar with laughter at.
I think the problem with celebrities is that often we forget they are just people and sometimes in interviews they just get comfortable enough to chat as they would amongst their own friends and we all know people who cross our comfort zone with sharing some of their experiences but in these situations we can say Nooo. Tooo much! Just as I suppose we can turn a tv or radio off if we hear things we don't wish to listen to.

Peaseblossom Tue 10-Jan-23 14:41:11

I can’t stand her myself, I have never found anything she has said remotely funny and what she does say is in bad taste.

Peaseblossom Tue 10-Jan-23 14:45:55

FannyCornforth I used to quite like Jo Brand, but I didn’t go out of my way to watch everything that she was in on TV. However, I can’t watch her at all now, ever since that awful comment she made which I think was about Boris Johnson, saying why didn’t someone throw acid at him. It really made my stomach turn when you think of what’s happened to many women by evil men, and all the trauma that ensues.

Peaseblossom Tue 10-Jan-23 14:47:15

I can’t believe some people haven’t heard of her. She’s been on loads of things and even if you don’t watch those programmes you see clips of them.

Wyllow3 Tue 10-Jan-23 14:47:21

Oh, I love Jo Brand! Tells it like it is, down to earth, and very positive about women and also very bright, in terms of being able to chair/take part in quick witted shows like Have I got News for You.

FannyCornforth Tue 10-Jan-23 14:57:49

HIGNY is scripted and heavily edited though.
There are several comedians including my old teacher Frank Skinner who won’t take part in those sort of shows because of it.
But I’m sure Jo is much better now, it was 30 years ago; but all she banged on about was being fat and ugly.
It was so demeaning

Callistemon21 Tue 10-Jan-23 15:25:38

FannyCornforth

HIGNY is scripted and heavily edited though.
There are several comedians including my old teacher Frank Skinner who won’t take part in those sort of shows because of it.
But I’m sure Jo is much better now, it was 30 years ago; but all she banged on about was being fat and ugly.
It was so demeaning

HIGNY is scripted and heavily edited though

Yes, it's obvious.

I admire quick-witted comedians who are always ready with a funny riposte or who can interact with an audience.
However, many comedians may seem funny and quick-witted but someone else may have written the scripts for them - they just deliver them.
One of the funniest men I knew, very quick-witted, wrote scripts for other well-known comedians.

Callistemon21 Tue 10-Jan-23 15:26:54

Overuse of quick-witted in above post 😂

Lovetopaint037 Tue 10-Jan-23 15:35:19

Answer!!! to make money or gain publicity?

Witzend Wed 11-Jan-23 10:18:28

Craving attention/publicity would be my guess. Any sort of attention/publicity being better than none.

Washerwoman Sat 14-Jan-23 19:46:43

Another one here who doesn't find Katherine Ryan remotely funny .She even irritated me on the genealogy programme Who Do You Think You Are.Very me,me me.
And whilst I didnt mjnd Jo Brand and enjoyed her autobiography years ago I thought her acid throwing comment was appalling and now I can't watch her.

JaneJudge Sun 15-Jan-23 14:05:11

FannyCornforth

Re Jo Brand. My friend and I went to see her around 1992. (Over 3O years ago! shock)
She was absolutely dreadful.
We walked out after 30 minutes and went to Pizza Hut.
I’m sure that she would have approved!

I loved her series Getting On.
That was brilliant

have you seen damned? that is very good too smile

HousePlantQueen Sun 15-Jan-23 15:45:35

Last night, we watched the last 10 minutes of John Bishop show, waiting for the news. I quite like John Bishop but he had 3 guests on ; Sue Perkins, Mo Gilligan, and Tom Allen. It was puerile. Mo Gilligan said very little, but Tom Allen and Sue Perkins were competing for who could be the most childish and vulgar edgy. Perkins referred to the 'wanking walrus' at least 5 times, Allen made crude jokes about skulking in bushes as a gay man, it was all 'oh, look at me, I am on TV and using dirty words'. I felt as I did when my children used to try to shock by using dirty words; it is not clever, and nobody wants to hear it.

JaneJudge Sun 15-Jan-23 15:54:56

That's what Tom Allen's act is like though HPQ grin

sodapop Sun 15-Jan-23 15:58:38

I read that the retired Pope who recently died was a big fan of Hyacinth Bucket and would answer the phone with " the Vatican residence "

I enjoyed Ronnie Barker's humour as well Goldenage such a talented man

Dickens Sun 15-Jan-23 16:47:42

For me, the late Victoria Wood was one of the best. Very witty and entertaining and came across as having a likeable personality.

Humour is very subjective though isn't it? I can never laugh at Sarah Millican, though I'm not going to criticise her because it's purely personal, and a lot of people like her.

I don't like jokes that rely too heavily on vulgarity, swear words, or 'intimate' details about the supposed activities of the comedian - it's just a matter of taste of course, other people like, or don't mind, such routines.