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AIBU to think the NHS is already dead

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DaisyAnneReturns Fri 04-Aug-23 10:40:14

The difference between the NHS and all other systems was the promise of "free at the point of need". This meant everybody got the same - they got what they needed at the time that they needed it.

Now we have private dentistry, private optical care, private hearing care, and soon private scanning clinics, private GPs, etc.

I don't doubt you may be able to use these places, as an "NHS" patient if you're poor, or that there will be special "NHS" clinics available. But you will be limited as you already are in the currently privatised areas, by the standard amount that the NHS/goverment will pay and which treatments they will cover.

To me means the death of the NHS.

SueDonim Sun 06-Aug-23 17:22:01

Sending love to you and your family, Urmstonegran. flowers

Luckygirl3 Sun 06-Aug-23 18:28:18

Urmstongran - thinking of you both.

BridgetPark Sun 06-Aug-23 18:47:44

Oh Urmst, so sorry to hear this, sending kind regards and hugs to you and your beloved hubby. xxx

GrannyGravy13 Sun 06-Aug-23 18:54:44

😘 penpal

varian Sun 06-Aug-23 19:03:29

Sorry to hear about your DH Urmstongran

You are clearly a very strong person so will give him all possible support. I do know of cases which have defied a bad prognosis.

Best wishes to you both.

Urmstongran Sun 06-Aug-23 19:15:50

You are all very kind. I seemed to just feel brave enough to post what I did on the spur of the moment. varian your words inspire hope which means a lot right now to me. We may be opposite sides on the political spectrum but when all comes to all, your kindness shines through.

Apologies everyone I didn’t mean to derail the thread. x

Kate1949 Sun 06-Aug-23 19:18:54

You haven't derailed it at all. I am praying that your DH's illness is treatable and that you have a positive outcome.

Sweetpeasue Sun 06-Aug-23 19:30:15

Urmstongran I'm so sorry. I just wanted to say that and sending you love.

Kate1949 Sun 06-Aug-23 19:48:20

If I can offer you some small comfort Urms, my DH was diagnosed with cancer nine years ago. When we were told they couldn't operate we were devastated. However, he received treatment and he is still here back to his old self. He is not cured, I don't think they really use that term, but is in remission with an annual blood test.

Dickens Sun 06-Aug-23 23:09:29

Kate1949

If I can offer you some small comfort Urms, my DH was diagnosed with cancer nine years ago. When we were told they couldn't operate we were devastated. However, he received treatment and he is still here back to his old self. He is not cured, I don't think they really use that term, but is in remission with an annual blood test.

Kate1949 flowers

My NDN's mother received an 'incurable' and untreatable cancer diagnosis seven years ago. She is still toddling around.

Her GP told my NDN that it's not at all unusual in older people - apparently the ageing process can actually hinder the progression of cancer, though the process is poorly understood.

Wyllow3 Sun 06-Aug-23 23:27:30

Urmstongran flowers

Witzend Mon 07-Aug-23 08:50:30

Dickens

Kate1949

If I can offer you some small comfort Urms, my DH was diagnosed with cancer nine years ago. When we were told they couldn't operate we were devastated. However, he received treatment and he is still here back to his old self. He is not cured, I don't think they really use that term, but is in remission with an annual blood test.

Kate1949 flowers

My NDN's mother received an 'incurable' and untreatable cancer diagnosis seven years ago. She is still toddling around.

Her GP told my NDN that it's not at all unusual in older people - apparently the ageing process can actually hinder the progression of cancer, though the process is poorly understood.

Similar with FiL. He was diagnosed with prostate cancer in his 80s, but died with it, not of it. AFAIk there was not much in the way of any treatment - he had vascular dementia and could be very uncooperative at the best of times.

Grantanow Sat 12-Aug-23 18:16:47

No it's not dead but it needs resuscitation.

littleflo Sat 12-Aug-23 21:52:07

I don’t believe it is dead. In some ways it’s is a victim of its own success. There is so much waste by both patients and managing bodies. Those that abuse they system make it hard for those with a genuine need.

We have an excellent GP Practice. We are offered an annual health check. Following mine, I have had 4 calls from the GP. Two out-patient appointments and. Change in my medication. All this with out me having to ask.

fancythat Sat 12-Aug-23 21:56:25

So sorry Urmstongran.

fancythat Sat 12-Aug-23 21:58:05

LadyGracie

The NHS in Wales isn’t dead but it’s definitely struggling to survive.

Same where we are.

Glad to see some others getting better and quicker and more helpful care.

I think there may be a postcode lottery going on.

Pumpkinpie Sun 10-Sept-23 11:20:26

It’s only dead if people continue to be apathetic . We need the nhs we don’t need the incompetent immoral Conservative party