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Rude grandson

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Pip Mon 14-Aug-23 10:34:01

I need advice please. I have 6 grandchildren ranging from 10-20 years old. One of them, my 15 year grandson has never been taught to be polite. Neither my son nor daughter in law appear to have instilled any manners into him. I also have twin 15 year old granddaughters - his cousins who couldn’t be more different. He lives in a beautiful home, is privately educated but I despair of him. He never comes to say hello when we visit, sits watching TV or playing games but can’t be bothered to speak or even say goodbye when we leave. He's 16 in October and I’m tempted to either give him nothing for his birthday or just a very small token present as he never says thank you. I don’t want to alienate my son and daughter in law and his sister is fine. He has always been like this, even as a toddler. I’m not wealthy like my son and expensive presents aren’t easy - but are expected. I’ve never said anything before but I’ve had enough. Im sure I’m not alone but would appreciate advice as although I love him I don’t like the person he’s becoming. Of all my grandchildren he is the one I really don’t know or understand.

Hithere Sat 19-Aug-23 15:08:05

We are not doctors to diagnose anything to anybody or explain why people act that way

What jumps out to me that of there's a diagnosis, the OP is not aware of it at all.

Norah Sat 19-Aug-23 15:16:26

M0nica, I tend to agree there are shades of colors or shades of grey - what have you. Must be true, people react differently.

I've ADD (not autism), but as I'm elderly there was no diagnosis when I was a child. Didn't matter one bit, I knew. Sweet nuns knew, they told me to 'pay attention, concentrate' (whilst not warning other children).

M0nica Sat 19-Aug-23 17:30:53

No one has diagnosed this child with anything Hithere, but one or two people have suggested it as a possible reason for his behaviour.

We all of us automatically try to make sense of the behaviour of people around us, if someone is crying we may think they may be sad, or been peeling onions and adapt our approach and language accordingly.

If we did not have this skill we would never have learnt how to recognise when an animal is eyeing us up for tea, or is resting after eating and is safe to walk by!

Oldnproud Sat 19-Aug-23 18:34:43

Hithere

We are not doctors to diagnose anything to anybody or explain why people act that way

What jumps out to me that of there's a diagnosis, the OP is not aware of it at all.

Have you trued getting a medical diagnosis in recent times? It can literally take years, and even then it can depend on a child's cooperation in less severe cases.

Norah Sat 19-Aug-23 19:16:22

Oldnproud

Hithere

We are not doctors to diagnose anything to anybody or explain why people act that way

What jumps out to me that of there's a diagnosis, the OP is not aware of it at all.

Have you trued getting a medical diagnosis in recent times? It can literally take years, and even then it can depend on a child's cooperation in less severe cases.

I was not diagnosed, I knew, the nuns knew. I've done well, perhaps not to others standards but I'm well pleased with my life.

One daughter was not diagnosed (albeit 50 yrs ago). Twenty years later her sister was diagnosed. I'm not sure it made any difference to their education or lives. We weren't going the prescribed drug route that others use for studying.

M0nica Sat 19-Aug-23 21:37:27

I have found that knowing that I have ADHD and dyspraxia means I have a greater understanding of myself and that makes it easier for me to find ways of managing the problem. It also enabled me to be at peace with myself to know why I have specific problems.

It is trivial things like knowing why I struggle to use a mobile phone. It is not the technology, nor am I unused to using electronic equipment but mobile phones require you to have fine motor control over how you touch small keys. Fine motor control is my problem. I hit the wrong keys, use the wrong pressure and because I am bad at sequencing. My mind says enter '123'. My fingers enter 213. This is one area where understanding the problem has helped me deal with it, but texting takes me hours because I have to do it much more slowly than other people - with constant correction.

I watch other peopls fingers dancing round the keypad with awe, but I now no longer try to do the same myself because I know why I will never be able to do it.

welbeck Sat 19-Aug-23 21:57:20

some phones, you can speak what you want and it turns it into a text message.
might be easier. maybe.

welbeck Sat 19-Aug-23 21:59:31

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welbeck Sat 19-Aug-23 22:00:36

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just copied something about the function.

M0nica Sun 20-Aug-23 08:51:11

Welbeck A useful hint, but I am not someone who needs or wants to be constantly texting people. Most of the time I do not know where my phone is and do not hear it when it rings. I have a computer and communicate by emails from there and our landline ring can be heard all round the house.

Curlygrey Sun 20-Aug-23 09:09:51

It’s possible your grandson may remain distant and uncommunicative, or he may improve as he becomes an adult. However if you behave as you feel tempted to, taking offence, wanting to make a point back to him, you are just making the situation worse aren’t you?
Of course you shouldn’t spend more than you can afford but why wouldn’t you continue your efforts to keep communication open and continue to show you are a gran who thinks of him and sends gifts etc on birthdays etc and wishes him well?

0ddOne Tue 22-Aug-23 12:01:13

M0nica

Oddone Please stop misunderstanding me. I am not referring to autism as one shade of grey, I am using the phrase in the generally accepted meaning that something does not have a cut off point as it goes from black to white but fades from one to the other through shades of grey

I am sorry to move so quickly to dictionary definitions, but here it is

^This phrase actually originated from a popular saying which “things are not black or white”. When something is said to be in black and white, it is distinctly referring to a clear choice such as yes or no, left or right. When this is not clearly defined, then it is said to be in a grey area just because the color grey is between black of white. So when a situation is not clear as black and white, it was then said to be various shades of grey.
www.theidioms.com/shades-of-grey/ and other sites.

I do understand what that idiom means. I do understand idioms, as a general rule, unlike many on the spectrum. But thank you for the "lesson".