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To be blindsided by DNA test?.

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Buttonjugs Fri 15-Dec-23 23:47:44

My eldest son is 43. I conceived him when I was 15 and at the time I was vulnerable and exploited to a degree. At first I thought the baby was due on the 29th November until I had a scan and discovered I was 20 rather than 30 weeks pregnant. I had a few contacts, 4 to be precise, but the dates matched with a 27 year old man I had slept with. When my son was born he looked like he was this man’s son. I never doubted it. Fast forward to last year, this man died and my son was contacted by an heir hunter because somehow they’d found out about the connection. My son had been to see him once as an adult so they must have exchanged details. I should explain that I have been estranged from my son because he got addicted to heroin and stole from everyone in the family and I find it hard to trust him, he is a pathological liar, He told me via WhatsApp that he had done a DNA test and wasn’t a match to this man. I have been sucker punched with this. The thing is he didn’t question me at the time he allegedly found out. I don’t know what to think. I did sleep with other people after this man and it might be that the scan was wrong, I was induced so didn’t go into labour spontaneously. In those days they induced you to get you out of the hospital and I was in with high blood pressure. So he may have been delivered early, it was a difficult birth with forceps.So there are 2 other candidates but he is so like the 27 year old man I can’t believe it’s not him., I am conflicted - is my son telling me the truth as he has a long history of lying or have I been wrong all along? Opinions welcome and advice to move forward. My mind is blown and I don’t knowmwhatmtomdo. Thank you if you have read this far.

Floradora9 Sat 16-Dec-23 21:45:12

If he is telling the truth and he has such a close match to his DNA from someone other than the man you thought must be his father then there is no dispute. This must be a close match . However had the man you though was his father done a DNA test or his other children or parents done one ? If not there is no proof he is or is not the dad . To conclude is there a very close match for someone else ( they tell you if this would be his father ) or is there no proof either way if no close matches at all .

SporeRB Sun 17-Dec-23 01:12:46

Buttonjugs, it is possible that you have been wrong all this time.

I have seen a tv programme where this young woman was totally convinced that this young lad was the father of her son since her son had a striking resemblance to him but DNA proved he was not the father.

The only proof of paternity is DNA. Anything else is mere speculation.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 01:30:22

Addressing some of the comments:

Suffering with addiction doesn't equate to "liar". Addiction usually manifests due the person having unresolved trauma

To OP:

I would take what he is saying at face value and get yourself some help to cope with this news. It will be difficult for your son too, especially as he must be able to do the maths and know that your teenage years must have been troubling for you

Sago Sun 17-Dec-23 08:56:34

Please come back ButtonJugs and let us know your thoughts.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 09:13:46

VS, the OP says her son is ‘a pathological liar’. Nobody here has invented that.

M0nica Sun 17-Dec-23 09:45:05

VS It has also been shown that he could not possibly have this information and it looks unlikely that any DNA testing has been done.

His story is a tissue of lies, so why should the OP take it seriously?

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 12:14:03

Germanshepherdsmum

*VS*, the OP says her son is ‘a pathological liar’. Nobody here has invented that.

Oh, indeed, you said "I don't think your son is telling the truth"

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 12:17:41

I suppose it is unfortunately easy to stereotype addiction but there is in fact a human being behind the addiction who needs help and research states that trauma is the most likely cause.. Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) being the most likely

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 12:20:48

Nobody is stereotyping addiction. The OP has told us of her son’s character. If you RTFT you will see why the conclusion has been drawn that he is not telling the truth.

Smileless2012 Sun 17-Dec-23 12:27:14

Exactly GSM. None of the responses here have stereotyped addiction. Buttonjugs knows that sadly her son has a history of lying, and his claim about the DNA test has been called into question, to say the least.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 12:35:15

I am sure OP would have access to any potential proof with a better relationship and it is clearly stated that there is more than one potential father

This mother and son would benefit from family therapy

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 13:07:11

I rather doubt either of them would want that. What a strange suggestion, I; the circumstances.

Doodledog Sun 17-Dec-23 14:25:16

Germanshepherdsmum

I rather doubt either of them would want that. What a strange suggestion, I; the circumstances.

Agreed. On all counts, GSM 🙄.

It's an odd situation as as far as I can tell, nobody stands to gain or lose whatever happens, unless the son can prove that his actual father is a millionaire looking for an heir or something.

I don't know why the son should lie, if the information given is all there is to know. I suppose that if this were a soap opera it might turn out that the man had wanted to leave money to the OP after feeling guilty about not supporting her during pregnancy and bringing up his child, but her son wanted to block this out of spite. In real life that scenario is highly unlikely though.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 14:29:46

No, lots of people dislike therapy and resist personal growth sadly

Doodledog Sun 17-Dec-23 14:34:09

Not everyone needs therapy, VS. Nothing wrong with it for those who do, but for many people it's not necessary.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 14:37:42

In this instance I think family therapy would be incredibly helpful

Many mental health disorders, Personality disorders and addictions stem from unresolved trauma and adverse childhood experiences

Iam64 Sun 17-Dec-23 14:48:27

Please follow GSM’s posts here buttonjugs.

VioletSky you aren’t an expert on Therapy. Recommending Family Therapy in these circumstances shows that .u

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 14:53:18

I think family therapy could prevent or reconcile many estrangements

Iam64 Sun 17-Dec-23 14:54:47

I’m not disputing the usefulness of family therapy in some circumstances. It’s never a cure all and totally inappropriate in these circumstances

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 15:14:02

I disagree but then, I wouldn't be commenting any further if I weren't addressing those trying to argue against my words addressed to OP

JaneJudge Sun 17-Dec-23 15:17:08

VioletSky

I think family therapy could prevent or reconcile many estrangements

But it’s not recommended if either party is abusive.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 15:20:40

It's recommended with addiction

Especially for overcoming addiction and rebuilding trust

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 15:28:21

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VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 15:32:40

Actually I do have qualifications that apply

But OP would like the truth and I think suggesting a path to that is helpful or I wouldn't be saying it

Aces and trauma aren't tied to parenting

I hope you are finished disparaging my character unnecessarily now GSM

Doodledog Sun 17-Dec-23 15:36:57

Look at what you have said to the OP, and think about disparaging of character, VS. GSM is right.