Ex son in law

I don’t imagine the school will stop here but it could look poorly for your daughter if sends the evidence of such (school attendance record and proof f contact saying he didn’t agree to it ) to his solicitor and it is shown as part of a pattern to the courts

That's a pity. It seems that your DD is planning on violating a Court Order which could backfire on her upon return and jeopardize her custody of the children. I think I would change my travel plans, regardless of the cost, and have an agreement in writing before taking them on holiday. It seems like a planned, legal ambush on the ex's part.

You state he’s ‘saying’ the Court Order says this, does it? If so, a quick solicitors call should clarify, suppose they had a hospital appointment at short notice, common sense would prevail.
I wouldn’t have told him.

Unless I read your post improperly, your daughter is playing loose with the Court Order. If true, perhaps she needs to change the children's flights.

Let your dd manage this

If I were her, I would have known this may happen and be ready for this

I would be ready to change the flights

What a complete nightmare! Suggest she contacts her solicitor pdq and also checks the court order.

Your D will have her copy of the court order so she should be able to check the content herself.

I may be wrong but presumably he has given his consent for the children to be taken out of the country for this holiday, so I can't see having done so he'd have a leg to stand on objecting them to missing 2 hours of school in order to go on the holiday he as already agreed too.

This is not advice but if it were me, I'd collect them at lunch time in case he turns up at the school in the afternoon to cause a scene and prevent them being collected early.

Probably entirely the wrong thing to do but that's me.

Hopefully Germanshepherdsmum will be along to give you the benefit of her legal mind.

Will they actually miss their afternoon mark? So it wouldn’t affect their attendance figures.

I feel your ex-SiL is being very rigid and seems to be being deliberately difficult and unfair to the children. He could have objected much earlier so that your daughter had time to change the arrangements.

Unfortunately, some exes are like that. I have no answer to the current problem but I would suggest that, if the court order is as he says, your D sticks absolutely to the rules in future and watches closely what her ex does. If he transgresses even slightly she should object - the court order applies to both of them, after all.

Thanks he was aware of flights but likes to disrupt at last minute. The Court order does say no absences from school unless both parents agree but they are in her time that day. Surely he wants his children to be happy. They are so excited to be going away.

They will miss afternoon mark so he will see they have been taken early. He is so difficult. It is different when he wants to do things and my daughter gives to him constantly for the children but he is such a difficult man. She did only as flight costs so high at half term and explained this to him.

Oh for ffs, it's two hours, not two days, her ex is being spiteful. Maybe she does not have the money to pay for the cost to change the flights.
I hope she manages to sort this out.

I suggest your daughter have a word with her solicitor about the 2 hours in question. It's not as if much school work will be done in those two hours before the break. Perhaps her solicitor will have a word with his solicitor who may tell him to wise up. Perhaps I am wrong.

Your daughter needs to discuss this with her solicitor. No time out of school unless both agree doesn’t preclude them missing 2 hours to catch a flight to holiday.
He sounds unreasonable. Family Court Judges have enough to do without having nonsense litigation to consider.
School might be a problem given dad’s email,- that’s why solicitors need involving.
Dad is not acting in the best interests of his children.

GrannyIvy Thanks he was aware of flights but likes to disrupt at last minute. The Court order does say no absences from school unless both parents agree but they are in her time that day.

Surely he wants his children to be happy. They are so excited to be going away. No. Not as much as he wants to annoy her.

Perhaps she could not give to his daft demands?

I hope this can be sorted.

He is being very mean, but involving the school in the dispute is also unfair, as is risking an altercation in front of the children.

I don't think the court would treat it so seriously, but the school would probably tell mum to check flight times so as not to compromise them again.

I'm not sure why mum has done this if she is well aware of the court orders- she should have booked another flight in the first place.

Neither have solicitor now as everything finalised. So much money been spent on fighting!! It is only two hours but he likes to taunt her. Very narcissistic. Neither can afford anymore Court costs. He is doing this to be cruel. He never considers the children unfortunately but the 10year old already seeing situation . I think going forward never ever book anything that is not agreed in black and white. Never ever ask anything of him. My poor daughter she thinks she can reason with him but he is too bitter. Very sad

Their happiness will not matter one iota to him by the sound of it
Shame she didn’t get a flight that fitted in with the school times as this will give him an excuse to have something against her, some amunition

I think going forward never ever book anything that is not agreed in black and white. Never ever ask anything of him. My poor daughter she thinks she can reason with him but he is too bitter.

Brilliant the plan for future.

I hope the current trip becomes ok for him, avoid an upset.

This is a very tough decision for the school... He is morally wrong but legally in the right and this puts them in a terrible position

It is also a violation of a court order so the potential repercussions need.to be considered as he seems like the type to take this dispute as far as it can go

Please tell your daughter to seek legal advice

This sounds just like my ex-sil. There is nobody in the world but him and hurting his child is immaterial as long as he makes a point. I hope you get this sorted out OP, you have my sympathy.

What an arse. It’s all about control isn’t it? A bitter man indeed. Why do some exes use their kids as pawns? Because they can. Tosser.

In the big sea she’s well shut of him. She’s learnt a very valuable lesson here. Stick to the rules and don’t expect him ever to be nice.

If you all knew what the court order stipulates, and what the ex is like, it seems madness to have broken the order.

Hopefully the ex is just bluffing and won't take things further.

What an arse. It’s all about control isn’t it? A bitter man indeed. Why do some exes use their kids as pawns? Because they can. Tosser.
Agree with everything you wrote. A horrible, bitter,petty individual.