Ten German Bombers

Let’s face it, there are very close blood ties between the British and the German royals and there are more similarities than differences between the 2 races. Football crowds are football crowds, who gives a toss? It is what you call a press beat up by the sounds of it. We have heard zilch over here, not worth even thinking about.

Galaxy

Sorry. Do you speak German. I was useless and didnt take the opportunity to learn a second language from my parents (my mum also speaks fluent german). I can understand a bit.

I was bilingual until I went to school - but then my mum stopped speaking German with me which was understandable in the early 50’s.
I took German at school and French and German at university and occasionally I’d be surprised at “knowing” a word or phrase I had no recollection of being taught!
I think what you hear in the early years stick with you for life!

LaCrepescule

I wasn’t “clucking” RosiesMaw. Please don’t be condescending and rude.

Agree to differ, I do not think for one minute that any “discussion” on GN substantiates the claim
I believe that discussion should be invited, so the authorities send out a clear message that such acts of hate won’t be tolerated
So yes, “clucking” about covers it.

Each team gives as good as it gets. It's always been the same . It's not about hate they just enjoy the ribbing.

It’s offensive and I wish they didn’t do ww2/munich/hillsborough etc
I confess to laughing at the chants from the Stratford end at the theatre of dreams. Shocking but hilarious

Believe me, this is very tame
So that makes it alright then
Looks as if a lot on here are condoning it or enjoying it I think it’s very offensive and think they should be chucked out or banned I suppose the same people condoning this think the monkey chants are funny
You don’t get this behaviour at any other world wide sport rugby, tennis, golf, cricket, cycling, marathons you name it just crowd encouragement
Awful advertisement for this country

RosiesMaw

LaCrepescule

I wasn’t “clucking” RosiesMaw. Please don’t be condescending and rude.

Agree to differ, I do not think for one minute that any “discussion” on GN substantiates the claim
I believe that discussion should be invited, so the authorities send out a clear message that such acts of hate won’t be tolerated
So yes, “clucking” about covers it.

So yes, RosiesMaw, rude just about covers it.

No BlueBelle, I don’t find monkey chants amusing. The Stratford End chants were rude, but not racist when I was there.
It’s dismissed in the way Banter is, I don’t like that either. Footie fans are better behaved than they were. The crowds are also huge with a boisterous culture. 75,000 at MUFC and very rarely any trouble, we’ve taken children and been perfectly safe

Well,*BlueBelle*, you're wrong. You do get chants in other sports as has been mentioned upthread.

Not on at all to compare this with, as you say, monkey chants. That's a sign of desperation on your part.

Dark humour in the armed forces are renowned. You'd probably faint if you'd heard my father's tales of WWII.

So you can be as outraged as you like if it makes you feel better.

Being offended doesn't make you right.

Rekarie- Disagreeing with posters doesn’t always lead to accusing them of being ‘desperate’. It sounds as though you’re offended by BlueBelle but as you point out being offended doesn’t make you right

I'm not remotely offended.

But as a mixed race woman I do dislike the lazy, and yes, desperate comparison, with racist chants

BlueBelle, as Marmadoit said, I’ve been there, it does happen at cricket and rugby, not just football.

It certainly happens in other team sports. The Aussie cricket fans are renowned for their banter. Especially when they play England.

Apologies for seeming rude- not meant to be directed at the poster, but the general tendency on much of social media to take it upon itself to pronounce on matters over which we have no control.

Racist monkey chants are a different matter, and certainly unacceptable.

I certainly don't like the chants. As others have said they happen in other sports and have gone on for a very long time. This is, mostly, men facing off to each other and rather this than violence which happened frequently in the past.
I don't know what can be done about it as there are too many chanting to arrest them all. If I find it offensive I don't listen but I don't attend football/rugby matches so it only affects those that do. Monkey chants, however, are very offensive as they are focused on one or two players not the whole team.

The song is described online as a children’s song.
I listened to it and it did sound vaguely familiar from my childhood. It sounds pretty harmless to me.

I know nothing about football as I have no interest in it, but I do know that the fans like to chant patriotic songs.

Meantime Scottish fans have been voted the Fans of the tournament by a German radio station,A poster of two young fans holding an umbrella over an elderly man walking through Munich has been displayed all across the region and the train my friend was on had an announcement asking everyone to stand up for Flower of Scotland ...which they then played .All NINE carriages stood and sung
We maybe didn't win our matches but the literally thousands of msgs received by German newspapers praising our fans is great.
Nice to see them receive appreciation.
The Tartan Army collects money and donates to childrens charities in EVERY city they play in...last week was the one hundred and first time they donated to a charity giving kids a weekend at a football camp..they gave £5000 ..The Mayor of Cologne has said they will be welcomed back with open arms ANY TIME .
Thats a successful trip

I am surprised that so many are happy to accept these unpleasant songs as 'banter', given the justified outrage when attempts are made to dismiss sexist talk in this way.

Singing patriotic songs to support one's own side is one thing, aggressive chants about the opponents quite another.

Football should police itself. IMO if overly provocative chanting is heard the game should be stopped.

Rakarie let’s get things straight I m from a mixed race family and I was a service wife for 12 years living in a variety of counties so let’s not dismiss me quite so quickly I m certainly not the fainting kind but your post was judgemental of me while knowing diddly squit about me
I wasn’t comparing the chants to these songs in levels of abuse I was meaning it’s probably the same people who are dismissing it ‘as fun’ ( how easily can the written word be wrongly interpretative )
Maybe you’re newish or don’t read my posts if you did you would know I m as anti racist as you can get and not a fainting type I bet I could tell you some stories and adventures that would make you go grey 😀

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You really excel yourself on rudeness and judgemental posts at times paddy