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I feel ashamed to be English after reading about our loutish football fans singing this odious song with their stupid models of bombers, in the beautiful country that is hosting Euro 2024.
The German response has been measured and gracious but I think the fans should be arrested for hate crime and banned from attending future matches.
Or is it ok because it’s Germany and it must forever pay and be ridiculed for Hitler’s crimes? I hope they win the tournament and so far their playing has been glorious.
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"Tartan Army Sunshine Appeal" and your point is?
Well I'm not a football supporter in any way, but a quick Google told me that Chelsea have made the most in charitable donations. We could of course go on like this all day! with "anyway look what we've done or got what you haven't" oh well here's one, religious sectarianism that's a big fat 1 to your side.
I'll just reiterate, every nation will encompass the good, the bad and the ugly, Consider this, The British public donated a record, £13.9bn to charity in 2023, the most generous donations coming from Sheffield, yes that's Sheffield in ENGLAND!
So what next, accents, scenery, cities, governments, writers, artists, tv programmes, inventions, style, buildings, food, horrid histories, in this never ending merry go round of "anything you've got we can do better"
The insults aimed at paddyann54 show the very worst side of GN. Anyone posting similar views about England would be applauded for their patriotism, but Scottish nationalism is frowned on.
As for the chants, should we also ban the many songs written about the Germans?
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"Hitler has only got one ball" ?
Glorianny
The insults aimed at paddyann54 show the very worst side of GN. Anyone posting similar views about England would be applauded for their patriotism, but Scottish nationalism is frowned on.
As for the chants, should we also ban the many songs written about the Germans?
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"Hitler has only got one ball" ?
It’s not the Scottish Nationalism that’s frowned upon it’s the constant insulting of anything and anyone south of the border.
I suggest you read paddyanne54’s post of 11.05.05 today which is extremely insulting…
Rekarie
I'm not remotely offended.
But as a mixed race woman I do dislike the lazy, and yes, desperate comparison, with racist chants
I totally agree Rekarie Racism is totally unexceptable, chanting and a few rude songs is part of being a supporter in the terraces and adds to the fun. I have been to many home and away matches
Posters saying it does not happen in Rugby are wrong it does.
GrannyGravy13
Glorianny
The insults aimed at paddyann54 show the very worst side of GN. Anyone posting similar views about England would be applauded for their patriotism, but Scottish nationalism is frowned on.
As for the chants, should we also ban the many songs written about the Germans?
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"Hitler has only got one ball" ?It’s not the Scottish Nationalism that’s frowned upon it’s the constant insulting of anything and anyone south of the border.
I suggest you read paddyanne54’s post of 11.05.05 today which is extremely insulting…
It's a reply to two very insulting posts both of which attack paddyanne54 personally.
One describing it as "saintly Scotland" and one saying Ministry of Everything is Better in Scotland" to carry on with her one woman tireless crusade that Scots truly represent the very best of humanity.
It's fairly justified in my opinion to be rude to rude people. And the rudeness continues in the next post criticising her again and comparing her to Nazis.
Read those posts if you want real examples of insults.
And all because Scottish football fans have been praised.
‘Saintly Scotland’ isn’t a personal attack Glorianny am sure you can see that.
Posters do get tired of the ‘everything Scottish is glorious’ hyperbole.
Follow a Celtic v Rangers match, those fans aren’t gentleman
It's not only the everything Scottish is wonderful hyperbole, if the post had been made by another, I doubt whether it would have garnered a response. There is a context around PA's posts which often are side swipes aimed at those of us south of the border. If an English GN member were to post for example, regarding a criminal trial or event happening in Scotland "look what's happening in Glasgow" the inference being "the people of Glasgow are a horrible lot" when we all know nasty things happen everywhere. I've seen such a post couched in those terms about an incident in London or the supposition of, "I hear the English don't speak to the neighbours" and God help the English people who have settled in Scotland allegedly they cause all sorts of problems. There is a narrative and history around PA's post they're pretty predictable and relentless in their anti English rhetoric and yes rude too! No doubt she'll pop up posting along the lines of her cousin's mother's sister's boyfriend is English and he's ever so luverly and she doesn't hate us, it's an illusion, even if we did execute Mary Queen of Scots.
I reported paddyanne54’s post of 11.05.00.
Scottish fans burn the England flag after a day of drinking at Euro 2024 in Germany as the Tartan Army descend on rain-hit Cologne ahead of their match against Switzerland
Hmm 🏴😇? 🏴😇 🏴😇?.
GrannyGravy13
I reported paddyanne54’s post of 11.05.00.
I didn’t report but I did comment on the offensive nature of the post. I welcome the immediate deletion by gransnet, which confirms gg13 and many others were correct, the post breached guidelines
I've reported the personal attacks on paddyanne54.
Never do things like this normally but honestly trying to silence a reply to the dreadful criticism posted is neither just nor fair.
By all means criticise, But play the ball not the man. And don't pick and choose about what is and isn't offensive.
Think that your comments are misplaced and misguided sympathy Glorianny
I would ask Paddyann54 to stop and think a bit before posting
1) Everything about Scotland is far superior to any other country
2)Everything about England and Westminster is terrible.
It’s bound to put other posters backs up and in my view is goady.
If anyone constantly said that England was wonderful in every way and Scotland the complete opposite it would soon be stamped on, quite rightly.
Report away all you like Glorianny
It doesn't make paddyann's perpetual attacks on England and everything to do with our country and the glorification of everything Scottish any less outrageous.
Actually, they are often so outrageous they cause hilarity.
Paddyann is not representative of all Scots on GN. and their opinion of England.
Please bear that in mind. 😡
Marydoll
Paddyann is not representative of all Scots on GN. and their opinion of England.
Please bear that in mind. 😡
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Marydoll
Paddyann is not representative of all Scots on GN. and their opinion of England.
Please bear that in mind. 😡
We know, Marydoll 🙂
Nor do her views represent those of any of the Scots people I know, although they are all living south of the border so perhaps their views don't count!
Well the posts I reported have been deleted. I suggest that taking a careful look at what you are criticising is important. It's fine to disagree and oppose someone's views. It is not OK to make personal remarks about them, much as they may irritate you.
I would never have dreamed of reporting anything on this thread until paddyanne54's post was reported and deleted. In my opinion if some people want to engage in slanging matches they are quite entitled to do so. What isn't OK is choosing to report one post because you don't like what it says or the poster saying it and ignoring others because you agree with them. I find that unacceptable.
There weren’t any slanging matches on this thread so no need for all this outrage.
I would just like to say that all Scottish and English football fans are wunderbar! 😄
I find it an unpleasant and uncivilsed culture, which is why I always discouraged my sons from taking an interest. Luckily they never really did. My husband also loathed the football culture, so we were pretty much a football free house.
Glorianny
Well the posts I reported have been deleted. I suggest that taking a careful look at what you are criticising is important. It's fine to disagree and oppose someone's views. It is not OK to make personal remarks about them, much as they may irritate you.
I would never have dreamed of reporting anything on this thread until paddyanne54's post was reported and deleted. In my opinion if some people want to engage in slanging matches they are quite entitled to do so. What isn't OK is choosing to report one post because you don't like what it says or the poster saying it and ignoring others because you agree with them. I find that unacceptable.
I reported paddyanne54’s post due to its content.
I do not engage in slanging matches
Hmmm, slagging matches?
Grandma70s
I find it an unpleasant and uncivilsed culture, which is why I always discouraged my sons from taking an interest. Luckily they never really did. My husband also loathed the football culture, so we were pretty much a football free house.
Is that in Scotland?
My Dad used to love the Spurs, especially as we lived round the corner from White Hart Lane, and my DP is glued to any footie matches and used to play for a London Sunday team.
Both lovely men btw
An interest in football or playing the game is fine and healthy.
Only gets out of hand with some fans, especially on away matches and drinking.
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