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Let’s just brush it under the carpet and hope it goes away.

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Sago Tue 09-Jul-24 11:38:59

A village outside our City has had a case of four men trying to abduct children, the Police were warned of this numerous times apparently, a local shopkeeper observed these men more than once and called 999.

The men got brave and tried to bundle a 9 year old girl into their car.
Thankfully a member of the public intervened.

These men are allegedly residing at an hotel locally with lots of other men.

They were arrested for the attempted abduction of 5 minors.
They have been released on conditional bail.

As they have no ID, no traceability and nothing to lose it’s very likely they will just disappear into the ether.

This has not been widely reported and apparently local people are furious.

Last year a local university hall of residence was used as accommodation for immigrants, local opposition was strong but it went ahead, a young girl was sexually assaulted, there was one news report and then it went quiet.

The men were all moved on.
No explanation……..just all gone.

Is this a common theme across the UK?

Why are we not allowed to talk about this?

Will our new government offer some transparency or will this just continue to be brushed under the carpet?

BigMamma Tue 09-Jul-24 12:39:04

It is diabolical. Why release them when they have no place of abode, like you say, they vanish into thin air. Also, why do newspapers blur out the faces of people who have actually been seen causing problems, stealing or attacking someone and even running away after having a meal at a restaurant. Show their faces, name and shame them. It would make finding them a lot easier.

Sarnia Tue 09-Jul-24 12:44:08

That's what concerns me about so many single men coming to our country. Too many of their cultures do not value or respect women. To them females are second best and only good for cleaning, cooking, sex and bringing up the children. Their women are often covered from head to toe but then they arrive in a country such as the UK to see so many of our young girls leaving very little to the imagination with the clothes they wear. The origins of the grooming gangs were Asian and Middle Eastern. For me, the safety of women is at an all-time low. It is very concerning.

Tiley Tue 09-Jul-24 12:45:32

We can expect many more illegal migrants entering our country now that Labour is in power!!

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-Jul-24 13:16:12

There is nothing in the report by the Independent which hints at the men being asylum seekers. I wouldn’t give credence to opinions on FB or X. Like growstuff I don’t see how asylum seekers would have access to a car.

TerriBull Tue 09-Jul-24 13:31:29

Maybe there is a case for ID cards hmm

Sago Tue 09-Jul-24 13:32:39

Germanshepherdsmum

There is nothing in the report by the Independent which hints at the men being asylum seekers. I wouldn’t give credence to opinions on FB or X. Like growstuff I don’t see how asylum seekers would have access to a car.

No there is nothing in the report to say they are asylum seekers.
It is however common knowledge that they are!
I know this currently cannot be proven but I have it on very good authority (not twitter ) that this is the case.

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-Jul-24 15:16:51

This sounds like malicious tittle tattle, and the number of people on here telling OP to report it to GB news backs up my suspicion. What has it to do with GB news, are they a militia now? Or is it just the perfect report for them to convince their Reform base that they made the right decision in voting for them?

Having said that, I agree it is unacceptable for groups of idle young men to be hanging about with nothing to do, perhaps with different cultural norms, but that is a subject for a different thread.

Callistemon213 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:34:41

There were reports in many news outlets last year of hundreds of child asylum seekers being 'abducted' or who have gone missing since arriving hers and being put into a hotel. These children were mostly teenage Albanian boys.
Some have returned.

Labour's Yvette Cooper accused ministers of a "dereliction of duty".

Let's hope, now she is in Government, she will be in a position to do something about this.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64389249

GrannyGravy13 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:35:44

I am not a Reform supporter HousePlantQueen

GB News not being as big as other stations have more leeway for smaller stories.

Adam Brooks is an excellent campaigner for the safety of women and children.

growstuff Tue 09-Jul-24 15:40:32

GrannyGravy13

I am not a Reform supporter HousePlantQueen

GB News not being as big as other stations have more leeway for smaller stories.

Adam Brooks is an excellent campaigner for the safety of women and children.

Leeway to encourage vigilantes! This is tittle tattle and I just hope that no innocent person comes to any harm. For all their faults, I'd rather the police dealt with this kind of incident.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 09-Jul-24 15:43:28

Sago, if it is, indeed, a police matter, then they can act only on evidence.
I expect that neither you nor I would want to live in a country where people are arrested on " common knowledge " rather than verifiable facts.

Chestnut Tue 09-Jul-24 16:07:31

Nicenanny3

youtu.be/S3XaIYx2hII?si=lXd0UGvQFAY34yAh

Watch this the UK doesn't give statistics on nationalities that commit crimes but Denmark and Sweden do, its an eye opener, although not an eye opener for me.

Alex Phillips is wonderfully outspoken. What a change from the normal blah blah blah about how we need migrants, let them all come etc. So many true crime statistics are hidden from us, presumably the MSM is not allowed to tell us certain things, but here she tells us the stark truth.

Oreo Tue 09-Jul-24 17:07:37

It isn’t tittle tattle it’s been reported, police have arrested and bailed the men and are investigating.
Having said that, we know nothing about the men except they were in a car and are all four in their 30’s.

Sago Tue 09-Jul-24 17:10:39

Oreo

It isn’t tittle tattle it’s been reported, police have arrested and bailed the men and are investigating.
Having said that, we know nothing about the men except they were in a car and are all four in their 30’s.

Thank you!

Rowantree Tue 09-Jul-24 17:21:42

My father and his family endured comments, opinions, bigotry, abuse and worse in Germany in the 1930s.
Only then it was Jews to blame.

OurKid1 Tue 09-Jul-24 17:23:16

Am I missing something here? How do you know it's people from the immigrant community? Presumably the Police have done their investigations and don't have enough evidence to keep them in custody.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 09-Jul-24 17:42:32

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

I am not a Reform supporter HousePlantQueen

GB News not being as big as other stations have more leeway for smaller stories.

Adam Brooks is an excellent campaigner for the safety of women and children.

Leeway to encourage vigilantes! This is tittle tattle and I just hope that no innocent person comes to any harm. For all their faults, I'd rather the police dealt with this kind of incident.

I have not encouraged vigilantes

What is wrong with investigative journalism?

As for tittle tattle

tickingbird Tue 09-Jul-24 18:05:57

If this is true and not an X thing against immigrants it must be taken very, very seriously. It’s terrifying and they must be caught and immediately deported.

NotSpaghetti Tue 09-Jul-24 18:15:15

This was reported by the BBC on 27th June so obviously not some "secret".
The police asked for witnesses/more info.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqql3kgdxv3o.amp

GrannyGravy13 Tue 09-Jul-24 18:29:17

Thank you NotSpaghetti

Sago Tue 09-Jul-24 18:33:33

NotSpaghetti

This was reported by the BBC on 27th June so obviously not some "secret".
The police asked for witnesses/more info.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqql3kgdxv3o.amp

I said it was not widely reported, not that it was a secret!

Iam64 Tue 09-Jul-24 18:35:18

Rowantree

My father and his family endured comments, opinions, bigotry, abuse and worse in Germany in the 1930s.
Only then it was Jews to blame.

30 years ago, My daughter aged 7 phoned from her friends house, across the road, to say she was setting off home, a distance of a couple of hundred yards. They often played in each others houses, the system of landline calls worked. It meant a parent waiting to safely cross the main road through our village.
Dad heard her coming sobbing - a car had stopped, the driver and a passenger in the back seat. They encouraged her to leave her bike, they’d bring her home. She pedalled like fury, they kept stopping.
Yes I called the police, a female officer arrived in quick time. She recognised me as a trainer from her ‘communicating with children’ course the previous week. Relief all round. She was lovely with our little girl. Led her through, asked at one stage if she thought the might be asking the way somewhere. No said my child -they wanted to take me away from my mummy.

The officer told us we were the 5th attempt abduction. Same description if car, men, approach. It hadn’t been publicised despite chikdren from a number of local schools

Dickens Tue 09-Jul-24 19:52:56

Iam64

Rowantree

My father and his family endured comments, opinions, bigotry, abuse and worse in Germany in the 1930s.
Only then it was Jews to blame.

30 years ago, My daughter aged 7 phoned from her friends house, across the road, to say she was setting off home, a distance of a couple of hundred yards. They often played in each others houses, the system of landline calls worked. It meant a parent waiting to safely cross the main road through our village.
Dad heard her coming sobbing - a car had stopped, the driver and a passenger in the back seat. They encouraged her to leave her bike, they’d bring her home. She pedalled like fury, they kept stopping.
Yes I called the police, a female officer arrived in quick time. She recognised me as a trainer from her ‘communicating with children’ course the previous week. Relief all round. She was lovely with our little girl. Led her through, asked at one stage if she thought the might be asking the way somewhere. No said my child -they wanted to take me away from my mummy.

The officer told us we were the 5th attempt abduction. Same description if car, men, approach. It hadn’t been publicised despite chikdren from a number of local schools

That's horrific. Thank God your daughter had the presence of mind to keep pedalling. It made my blood run cold reading your story.

But no warnings to parents of the previous attempted abductions?

Has anything changed? What you are in effect saying is that this 'secrecy' has been going on for a long time.

I remember back in the 90s touring around Norway with my Swedish OH - we'd only known each other for a couple of months. We were in a remote area and passed a house where a very small child, a girl dressed only in shorts, was playing outside the boundaries of her garden, just sitting on the grass and digging around in the soil.

My OH suddenly stopped the car and muttered, "no, no, little girl, not even in Norway" sort of under his breath. I'd absolutely no idea what he was on about - but he told me to watch the child whilst he went and knocked on the door of the house, whereupon the mother came out and collected her.

He explained afterward that all over the world there were gangs of paedophiles and that it was a common misconception that paedophilia was a rarity in Scandinavian countries. His brother was a police interrogator in Sweden and had told him how rife it was in Scandi nations.

Highly unlikely they'd be roaming in remote areas, but who the heck knows.

welbeck Tue 09-Jul-24 19:59:09

why would it be highly unlikely ?
i'd assume the opposite; fewer people around = less likely to be noticed doing something untoward.
there have been several cases of children being snatched in remote areas in the uk.

welbeck Tue 09-Jul-24 20:05:19

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/abducted-girl-found-by-father-in-van-terrified-sixyearold-bound-and-gagged-with-elastoplast-1373070.html