Let’s just brush it under the carpet and hope it goes away.

Anybody who threatens the safety of women and children needs to be dealt with. To me it is irrelevant what nationality they are or their immigration status. Whoever they are they need to stopped.

Even after the business with Wayne Cozens and the subsequent revelations about other police officers, I still think the police are not taking the problem seriously enough.

Violence/including sexual violence to women and children must be a priority for our new government

Oh my goodness - glad the little girl is safe

welbeck

why would it be highly unlikely ?
i'd assume the opposite; fewer people around = less likely to be noticed doing something untoward.
there have been several cases of children being snatched in remote areas in the uk.

why would it be highly unlikely ?

I was thinking in terms of 'gang's or groups of paedophiles, rather than an opportunist.

Nicenanny3

youtu.be/S3XaIYx2hII?si=lXd0UGvQFAY34yAh

Watch this the UK doesn't give statistics on nationalities that commit crimes but Denmark and Sweden do, its an eye opener, although not an eye opener for me.

Thank you for posting this link. I am forwarding to all family and friends. I am glad someone in the media is prepared to speak up about what is happening in this country and others.

crazyH

Oh my goodness - glad the little girl is safe

I can still see her in my mind's eye - she was such a tiny little thing and looked so vulnerable and innocent. I think that's what struck my OH - I initially thought he was worried about her making her way down to the road, one which was extremely quiet, but nonetheless dangerous.

Bumface

Anybody who threatens the safety of women and children needs to be dealt with. To me it is irrelevant what nationality they are or their immigration status. Whoever they are they need to stopped.

Even after the business with Wayne Cozens and the subsequent revelations about other police officers, I still think the police are not taking the problem seriously enough.

The Police not taking it seriously enough? They're part of the problem Bumface. Every single week without fail there's yet another one in the press for sexual crimes against women or deviant social media posts. Who needs to worry about illegal immigrants!

Nicenanny3

youtu.be/S3XaIYx2hII?si=lXd0UGvQFAY34yAh

Watch this the UK doesn't give statistics on nationalities that commit crimes but Denmark and Sweden do, its an eye opener, although not an eye opener for me.

Nicenanny3.

maggie Oliver, the former detective who resigned over the disgusting grooming gangs affair has long been saying that stats should show ethnicity of criminals.

I just saw that as Labour are now letting criminals out early, one grooming gang member was released early today.

We record the ethnicity of victims but not the perpetrators!

This alleged crime is frightening and very worrying, whatever the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

To contrast; some 15 years ago, on my way to drop my young son at his friend's house, I saw a young girl, about 3 years old, sitting on the edge of the kerb, playing with a doll. On her own, on the periphery of a small housing estate. With my son holding my hand, I asked her where she lived, she pointed to a house, I took her there, knocked and was told by her delightful mother to mind my own effing business.

Primrose. Today 22:06
I just saw that as Labour are now letting criminals out early, one grooming gang member was released early today.

Labour are considering releasing prisoners early. They haven't done so yet. Many were being released early under the previous government so imagine that's the case you are referring to. Unless it's Scotland where they've released hundreds early since June, but all supposedly no threat to the public.

Does anybody have a link please to " letting criminals out early"

olddog

Does anybody have a link please to " letting criminals out early"

Brought in by the last government: this report giving full details is from May 14th before election called

www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/may/14/high-risk-offenders-included-in-early-release-scheme-prisons-inspector-says#:~:text=The%20government's%20early%20release%20scheme%20was%20designed%20to%20relieve%20the,23%20May%20to%2070%20days.

"High-risk offenders including a domestic abuser who posed a risk to children have been freed from jail under the government’s early release scheme, a watchdog has revealed.

Charlie Taylor, the chief inspector of prisons, said the Ministry of Justice’s plan to relieve the pressure in overcrowded jails raised “serious concerns” and had undermined safety and risk management.

The disclosure comes amid accusations that the justice secretary, Alex Chalk, has broken a pledge that the scheme would only apply to “low-level offenders”.

In a report published on Tuesday, Taylor said a “high-risk” inmate at HMP Lewes who posed a danger to children had his release date brought forward despite “having a history of stalking, domestic abuse and being subject to a restraining order”.

"The government’s early release scheme was designed to relieve the pressure in overcrowded jails. It initially involved inmates having their sentences cut by up to 18 days. That was increased to between 35 and 60 days in March and will rise again from 23 May to 70 days."

The pressure on prisons is so great that the scheme is likely to have to continue, if there are literally no places at all: however after these revelations its likely to be revised as to who.

I thought prisoners eligible for parole only serve 50% of their sentences, providing the parole board think they are suitable for release ie have behaved in prison.
I also thought the new government are considering releasing some prisoners after they have served 40% of their sentences.
If I’m wrong, someone will be along soon to tell me.

If the pressures on prisons is so great it rather belies the often made assertion that crime is dropping. Whatever, perhaps we need to build more prisons.

Details here maddyone

www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/07/labour-consider-plan-to-release-prisoners-after-40-of-sentence-served

"prison overcrowding has emerged as one of the most urgent issues facing the new government,

with governors warning that the prison estate in England and Wales will be effectively full within the next week or so

HousePlantQueen

This alleged crime is frightening and very worrying, whatever the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

To contrast; some 15 years ago, on my way to drop my young son at his friend's house, I saw a young girl, about 3 years old, sitting on the edge of the kerb, playing with a doll. On her own, on the periphery of a small housing estate. With my son holding my hand, I asked her where she lived, she pointed to a house, I took her there, knocked and was told by her delightful mother to mind my own effing business.

What an awful story, and I'm glad you returned the child to safety.
Although not too relevant to this thread, so I was wondering why you recounted it?

Wyllow3

Surely the news has been reported in at least one MSM or local paper? Definitely not something that would remain unreported? Otherwise it remains allegations. (Not disagreeing with the O/P, its just that so many rumours do fly around)

Well it's been well reported in Hull news. Perhaps MSM don't look outside London!

The massive scandal of the Asian Rochdale grooming gang went on for years before the Police finally got them into court and secured convictions but not before an awful lot of victim blaming had taken place.
It seems that men of a certain ethnic disposition have an almost automatic immunity as far as investigation over their activities is concerned. The police find it a whole lot easier to throw accusers under a bus than to deal with allegations head-on.

Of course it will be swept under the carpet, just like Rochdale.
That’s life here now.

The Jay report confirmed a key issue in failure to protect the victims was that they were not viewed as children. They were often blamed for the abuse they were subjected to, seen as making ‘poor life style choices’
The perpetrators were largely night workers, taxi drivers, take away staff. By its nature, mainly of Pakistani Muslim origin. Other forms of organised child sexual exploitation involves families of white British origin, or men who work on the doors at clubs.
Ethnicity is not the key reason these girls weren’t protected, it was the fact our criminal justice system fails to prioritise and protect children, especially those vulnerable to sexual exploitation.

x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1810780455613907226

Primrose53

x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1810780455613907226

Your link (to X)...

So Darren Grimes tells us about a 'report' (to which there is no reference nor link) which 'suggests' that grooming gang members may be released early. Under Labour.

Followed by Samantha Smith's comment where she highlights a published proposal by Labour - where sex offenders will be exempt from early release, along with terror-related and violent criminals.

... which point are you highlighting, because one contradicts the other?

Or were we supposed to only read the first comment?

Have you not read my posts /references above, primrose?

Under the last government (report May 14th)

The disclosure comes amid accusations that the justice secretary, Alex Chalk, has broken a pledge that the scheme would only apply to “low-level offenders”.

In a report published on Tuesday, Taylor said a “high-risk” inmate at HMP Lewes who posed a danger to children had his release date brought forward despite “having a history of stalking, domestic abuse and being subject to a restraining order

However Labour have clearly said
Offenders jailed for sex crimes, violence or terrorism would be excluded from the scheme, as would any offender subject to Parole Board decisions upon their release

“We haven’t made any decisions yet,”

Have you a reliable source for that x allegation, please?