Dogs in coffee shops

Oh, I don't know, Dickens - I think a lead (and possibly even a muzzle) could come in very handy for some children!
On a serious note though, I agree with you. If children and dogs were kept under control in cafes or restaurants, there wouldn't really be a problem, would there?

We have two dogs and would never take them to a restaurant whether we sat inside or out. It's just not hygienic in my opinion. Of course they do have their own restaurant at home! 🤣

I think it is disrespectful to treat dogs like people. They are much nicer than humans, mostly, and have a lot to put up with from owners who drag them round to places for people.

Joseann

I'm not talking about going abroad BigMamma. I meant British families staying in the UK renting cottages, chalets, mobile homes, etc. in places like Wales, Devon, Cornwall etc. Some of them may not be able to afford kennels on top of the cost of their holiday. Or they may not have relatives to look after the dog.
As said above, many walking and discovery holidays are centered around dog walks.
In my opinion, there should be dog friendly eating places and no dog places. Suits everyone then.

I am talking about dogs being dragged from pillar to post because their owners think that they like going on long walkies every day. Are these poor dogs paws checked for cuts etc. When humans are carrying their water are they ensuring their pets have enough to drink. If I had no one to leave our pets with and could not afford kennels then I would not go on holiday whether abroad or inland.

Humans think they are doing their poor dogs a favour by taking them everywhere with them but I do not think so, if you get tired walking about then think about the dogs with their poor little feet, no shoes etc.

Cruel.

Your partly wrong Caleo there are no other cafes /coffee shops to go to so of course they seem popular
We have one bar /eatery here that at least keeps one corner area for doggie people Which is better than nothing
What a daft thing to say ‘do men always wash their hands after a pee’ who knows and who cares they aren’t slobbering around me or my food why does that equate with taking dogs, cats, snakes and seagulls out for a meal (see what I did there Callistemom )
it’s not the dogs fault that owners allow them to drink coffee or tea off their saucers or put their plate of leftovers on the floor for them to eat or allow them to sit on the chairs at the table ALL things I ve seen and don’t like . I often don’t like the smell of dogs some smell, others don’t every dog owner thinks their pooch is perfect but not everyone thinks the same
When I had a dog she was perfect (for me ) but I never took her in restaurants, cafes, shops, or any building of attractions etc
She had two good walks a day a garden when I was home and slept in the house when I went out She never had a pushchair or was carried in my arms and when she died she didnt go over any rainbow bridges 🙄

Golly Spuddy - " demonic sprogs"? Not too judgemental ?

Oh how I hate that saying " over the rainbow bridge"🤮

Well, I have a glass 'rainbow bridge' with some of my dog's ashes fused into it, so I make no apologies for that. If I believed in a heaven, that's what I'd want it to be like.

Dickens

As with children, the problem with dogs in various 'eateries' is the owner.

I've seen both children and dogs who are well-behaved and don't cause any trouble.

Perhaps dog-friendly (and child-friendly) restaurants should have some simple rules - for example, not letting your children run around unchecked, nor allowing dogs to sit on seats or be fed from the table?

A child eating with its parents, or a dog parked under a bench or seat snoozing, doesn't really cause anyone any harm.

The worst for me is those owners with dogs on extendable leads in restaurants who, when the dog greets all-comers by bounding up to them, smile indulgently and assure you that their animal "just loves people". Dogs should be kept on a short lead and remain close to their owner. And children likewise. Without a lead of course.

A child eating with its parents, or a dog parked under a bench or seat snoozing, doesn't really cause anyone any harm.

It's when a wandering child goes under a neighbouring table or bench and starts to torment play with a strange dog that trouble might ensue. Then the parents might blame the dog and dog owner if the dog growls or reacts in any way.

why does that equate with taking dogs, cats, snakes and seagulls out for a meal (see what I did there Callistemom )

😁

I hope you have a collar and lead for him or he could cause chaos.

BigMamma

Joseann

I'm not talking about going abroad BigMamma. I meant British families staying in the UK renting cottages, chalets, mobile homes, etc. in places like Wales, Devon, Cornwall etc. Some of them may not be able to afford kennels on top of the cost of their holiday. Or they may not have relatives to look after the dog.
As said above, many walking and discovery holidays are centered around dog walks.
In my opinion, there should be dog friendly eating places and no dog places. Suits everyone then.

I am talking about dogs being dragged from pillar to post because their owners think that they like going on long walkies every day. Are these poor dogs paws checked for cuts etc. When humans are carrying their water are they ensuring their pets have enough to drink. If I had no one to leave our pets with and could not afford kennels then I would not go on holiday whether abroad or inland.

Humans think they are doing their poor dogs a favour by taking them everywhere with them but I do not think so, if you get tired walking about then think about the dogs with their poor little feet, no shoes etc.

Cruel.

One thought
Over- reaction.

Second thought
Sweeping generalisations.

I don’t like dogs in food shops or cafés except for guide dogs which behave well and are needed. Visions of them peeing or crapping on the floor aren’t pleasant. Also, some people are very allergic to them and would therefore not be able to enter ( one of my SILs is)

RosiesMaw2

BigMamma

Joseann

I'm not talking about going abroad BigMamma. I meant British families staying in the UK renting cottages, chalets, mobile homes, etc. in places like Wales, Devon, Cornwall etc. Some of them may not be able to afford kennels on top of the cost of their holiday. Or they may not have relatives to look after the dog.
As said above, many walking and discovery holidays are centered around dog walks.
In my opinion, there should be dog friendly eating places and no dog places. Suits everyone then.

I am talking about dogs being dragged from pillar to post because their owners think that they like going on long walkies every day. Are these poor dogs paws checked for cuts etc. When humans are carrying their water are they ensuring their pets have enough to drink. If I had no one to leave our pets with and could not afford kennels then I would not go on holiday whether abroad or inland.

Humans think they are doing their poor dogs a favour by taking them everywhere with them but I do not think so, if you get tired walking about then think about the dogs with their poor little feet, no shoes etc.

Cruel.

One thought
Over- reaction.

Second thought
Sweeping generalisations.

One of our dogs, the smallest one, could run three times as far as us when let off the lead for walks. Tired? It was us who felt tired, even the children couldn't keep up with him.

Paw pads are designed to be tough . They are composed of very thick skin, adipose tissue and tough fibres and act as shock absorbers to protect the joints.

Over- reaction.
I thought it was tongue-in-cheek, surely a joke? 😃

When watching "Antiques Roadshow" I'm amazed how many people have their dogs with them. The dogs must hate it especially when their owners are queuing for ages on a hot day. Why on earth do people do this? My dogs were always perfectly happy being left at home for a couple of hours . If I needed to be away longer I arranged for someone to take care of them

To Misinterpreted and others: It was not my intention to suggest that ALL dog owners act as I described and thank you for your consideration when you take dogs out. Unfortunately in the area I live in the behaviour described is all too common and local cafes are generally becoming dog friendly to the exclusion of anyone without one.

A few weeks ago I was happily enjoying lunch with a friend when the dog next to us threw up on the floor “oh don’t worry “ said his owner “”he’s been eating grass in the park” as he was promptly sick again. She then proceeded to wipe it up with paper napkins and carried on eating her lunch with the napkins left on the floor.
We couldn’t eat any more so paid, left and went to a dog free bar for coffee. Revolting!.

eddiecat78

When watching "Antiques Roadshow" I'm amazed how many people have their dogs with them. The dogs must hate it especially when their owners are queuing for ages on a hot day. Why on earth do people do this? My dogs were always perfectly happy being left at home for a couple of hours . If I needed to be away longer I arranged for someone to take care of them

Imagine having your ugly old vase inherited from Great-Aunt Agatha being valued at half a million pounds then some bored runaway dog tips over the table and it smashes into smithereens in front of you!

Callistemon213

eddiecat78

When watching "Antiques Roadshow" I'm amazed how many people have their dogs with them. The dogs must hate it especially when their owners are queuing for ages on a hot day. Why on earth do people do this? My dogs were always perfectly happy being left at home for a couple of hours . If I needed to be away longer I arranged for someone to take care of them

Imagine having your ugly old vase inherited from Great-Aunt Agatha being valued at half a million pounds then some bored runaway dog tips over the table and it smashes into smithereens in front of you!

There is a place for dogs and restaurants are not one of them. If people love their dogs so much then stay at home and look after them instead of dragging them round shopping centres and places where people eat out.

Even when sitting outside a lovely cafe having a cake and coffee, you see dogs, crouching down and weeing and doing their business and the proud owners, wave their doggy poo bags as if to say, don't worry we will pick it up. Who the hell wants to watch dog poo being picked up while having cofee and cakes.

Keep them at home, dogs prefer walks in the countryside not round shops and cafes.

Ours is walked in the countryside every day. If we take him away in our motorhome, he loves nothing more than getting out and about to explore new places. If we are staying on a site which has its own cafe or restaurant, he will usually stay in the van while we eat, but if we are out and about and find a nice place with outdoor seating, we will visit it with him. He lies quite happily under our seats and bothers no-one. He wouldn't do his business somewhere like that - not that we would ever dream of allowing him to do so. Not all dog owners are inconsiderate.

MissInterpreted........

How do you know he lays quite happily under the table, has he told you he is happy. Dogs love the countryside but not towns and cities walking the hard pavements.

I know their pads are hard but so are my feet in trainers and walking shoes but it doesn't mean my fee don't hurt.

BigMamma

Callistemon213

eddiecat78

When watching "Antiques Roadshow" I'm amazed how many people have their dogs with them. The dogs must hate it especially when their owners are queuing for ages on a hot day. Why on earth do people do this? My dogs were always perfectly happy being left at home for a couple of hours . If I needed to be away longer I arranged for someone to take care of them

Imagine having your ugly old vase inherited from Great-Aunt Agatha being valued at half a million pounds then some bored runaway dog tips over the table and it smashes into smithereens in front of you!

There is a place for dogs and restaurants are not one of them. If people love their dogs so much then stay at home and look after them instead of dragging them round shopping centres and places where people eat out.

Even when sitting outside a lovely cafe having a cake and coffee, you see dogs, crouching down and weeing and doing their business and the proud owners, wave their doggy poo bags as if to say, don't worry we will pick it up. Who the hell wants to watch dog poo being picked up while having cofee and cakes.

Keep them at home, dogs prefer walks in the countryside not round shops and cafes.

Ok, I did get the point ......
😁

BigMamma

MissInterpreted........

How do you know he lays quite happily under the table, has he told you he is happy. Dogs love the countryside but not towns and cities walking the hard pavements.

I know their pads are hard but so are my feet in trainers and walking shoes but it doesn't mean my fee don't hurt.

My feet always hurt but my dogs never showed any sign of their feet hurting.

If I do get another dog I will make sure they have appropriate trainers with orthotics insoles.

BigMamma

MissInterpreted........

How do you know he lays quite happily under the table, has he told you he is happy. Dogs love the countryside but not towns and cities walking the hard pavements.

I know their pads are hard but so are my feet in trainers and walking shoes but it doesn't mean my fee don't hurt.

He's not walked all round towns and cities on hard pavements. As I said, he's walked in the countryside, and if we are out in our motorhome, we are going to the countryside or coast. As I stressed, we rarely take him to cafes or restaurants and when we do, it's to places which have outdoor seating areas. I know my own dog - I know when he's happy and when he's not, and if we thought for one moment he wasn't happy about being in a particular place, we wouldn't take him there.

Dogs aren't stupid.
They would show you if they were in pain or distressed.