Dogs in coffee shops

Exactly, Callistemon213. You know when your own dog is happy or when they are not.

I used to see a dog who wore "trainers" on his paws. He had very sore paws and could hardly walk. He was a rescue greyhound and his new owner bought him shoes for all four paws.

AGAA4

I used to see a dog who wore "trainers" on his paws. He had very sore paws and could hardly walk. He was a rescue greyhound and his new owner bought him shoes for all four paws.

He had either been raced until his paws were sore or not up to scratch and kept in a cage.
Greyhounds are not treated well, thank goodness for the people who rescue them and for those who give them loving homes afterwards.

My dogs enjoy any walk but their excitement levels at the beach or open country tell me which is best

This morning brunch at a cafe. Huge lab and even bigger collie cross arrived with their people. Dogs under their table, didn’t move. Owners mid 70s
Nearby table, mini dachshund barking, owners response -put him on their table, kiss the dog, make big fuss. Owner 20 something

I think there should be compulsory dog-owner training.

It's people that are the problem, not the dogs.
It isn't dogs who scoop their poop into a bag and hang it on the tree outside my flat.

I've nothing against well behaved dogs sitting at their owners side in cafes, but that is asking too much, it seems.

I suppose it depends on where and why you are eating or drinking. We have a seaside caf where I live where it is perfectly acceptable for dogs to lie on the floor under the table. The floors are mopped daily and the owner/manager is very much present. We also have a 5 star restaurant on our promenade and I would be horrified to see a dog under a table when dining there. Not sure what the maître d’ would have to say?!

I get sick of seeing dogs everywhere I go - whether it's in a cafe, in the park or on the beach. Most dog owners pick up the mess but a residue is still left behind and an infant can easily touch it. Why is it that everyone these days seems to want a dog - or more than one? I don't like going into homes with dogs especially where there are carpets. I can't even think about the germs that lie there. Ugh.

Anyone who feels that way wouldn't be welcome in my house anyway. Give me dogs over judgemental humans any day of the week.

I like animals, I always have
How people treat them is their own business.

I looked after someone's old staffie for a week, but when the owner said "Oh, she'll sleep in bed with you" I began to regret doing the favour.

She went in with my grandson instead...

My dogs have never slept with me. They’ve all been welcome to come up in the morning and snuggle up whilst I enjoy my morning cuppa so it isn’t a hygiene thing. I’ve never had a dog with separation anxiety, don’t want one either, if they don’t sleep happily downstairs in their own home, what happens in an emergency if they need boarding or kennels, or even just staying with a friend

This morning brunch at a cafe. Huge lab and even bigger collie cross arrived with their people. Dogs under their table, didn’t move.

Well, of course, I have the model dog too. Under the table in a café at our feet. Comatose.

I am a dog lover and have a Cairn Terrier. I would not dream of taking him inside an establishment that serves food and drink. I feel that it is unhygienic and many people simply don’t like dogs. I don’t want other people’s dogs sniffing me or jumping up at me, either. Last week, I was with a friend intending to go into a local café. The person in front of us had a young husky type of dog. This dog was undisciplined and over friendly. He decided he wanted to greet me and jumped on me. His front paws reached the top of my collarbone. This was the point at which my friend and I cut our losses and found a café that was not dog friendly where we could enjoy our food in peace.

Musicgirl

I am a dog lover and have a Cairn Terrier. I would not dream of taking him inside an establishment that serves food and drink. I feel that it is unhygienic and many people simply don’t like dogs. I don’t want other people’s dogs sniffing me or jumping up at me, either. Last week, I was with a friend intending to go into a local café. The person in front of us had a young husky type of dog. This dog was undisciplined and over friendly. He decided he wanted to greet me and jumped on me. His front paws reached the top of my collarbone. This was the point at which my friend and I cut our losses and found a café that was not dog friendly where we could enjoy our food in peace.

I can understand why eateries are 'dog-friendly' - they need the custom.

But why the heck don't they make some rules regarding the behaviour of the dogs? Not everyone is comfortable in the presence of the animals, and most don't want a dog jumping up at them, or sniffing around them whilst they are queueing or eating. Owners should keep them on a short lead, by their side at all times - and most definitely not let them eat or drink off the plates nor sit on the seats. I sat adjacent to a couple in a pub serving food - I didn't even realise they had a dog until they got up to leave because it lay quietly by the side of one of them on the floor - it can be done.

Skydancer How I agree with you. We have some friends who have several dogs. I am sure they have no idea how their house smells. We always have to change our clothing after visiting as the smell lingers.

Don't mind so long as the dogs or on a lead and kept apart. I was in a pub last year where the landlord had two Staffordshire bull terriers that were totally placid and acted like comfort dogs to some of the regulars.

JamesandJon33

Skydancer How I agree with you. We have some friends who have several dogs. I am sure they have no idea how their house smells. We always have to change our clothing after visiting as the smell lingers.

Maybe you should say something to them. I’ve had my own dogs for 30 years and have often asked non dog owners if my house smells of dog . I’m not offended if they were to say it does.
They assure me my house doesn’t smell. We do have hard floors downstairs which is easier to clean , use a robot hover daily and wash dog beds weekly . We also have leather sofas which are easy to wipe down .

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JamesandJon33

Skydancer How I agree with you. We have some friends who have several dogs. I am sure they have no idea how their house smells. We always have to change our clothing after visiting as the smell lingers.

Wow, I'm sure your friends would love to know you felt like that behind their backs!

I have a well behaved Labrador who is sometimes walked on heathland with a very dog friendly pub at the edge of the Heath . Dogs are only allowed in the bar area not in the restaurant . So customers have the option where to eat. Our dog is tucked under a table or in a corner and always on a short lead . Some diners haven’t even realised he’s there .
I don’t agree with dogs on benches or tables , or extendable leads .
I have more of a problem with children running around pubs and restaurants. Shouting and screaming. Whilst their parents ignore them . It’s a danger with staff carrying hot food and trays of drinks .
My kids were never allowed to get down from the table in a restaurant and run around . I took books and game boys and colouring stuff for them .

Thanks to all of you considerate dog owners who do not take your dogs into restaurants or cafés. I'm not keen on the smell of dogs (love cats and horses) and would not eat or drink where there were dogs indoors.

Casdon

To the contrary Curtaintwitcher, UK law always allowed dogs in commercial kitchens as well as in eating ares. I can remember the big fuss made when an EU law came in banning them from the kitchens, because it was sensationalised in the press.

Food Hygeine regulations 2013 insist restaurant owners cannot allow dogs into places where food is stored , handled or prepared. No law that states dogs cannot be permitted into restaurants etc. Personally after a dog barking contest in a local garden centre, where we were eating, getting tangled in a small dogs long lead, I was the one at fault of course, I would be quite happy to see them banned, or at least considerate owners removing them.

Freya5

Casdon

To the contrary Curtaintwitcher, UK law always allowed dogs in commercial kitchens as well as in eating ares. I can remember the big fuss made when an EU law came in banning them from the kitchens, because it was sensationalised in the press.

Food Hygeine regulations 2013 insist restaurant owners cannot allow dogs into places where food is stored , handled or prepared. No law that states dogs cannot be permitted into restaurants etc. Personally after a dog barking contest in a local garden centre, where we were eating, getting tangled in a small dogs long lead, I was the one at fault of course, I would be quite happy to see them banned, or at least considerate owners removing them.

That’s right Freya5, the Food Hygiene regulations were changed after the EU ruling. Before that restauranteurs could have their dogs in the kitchen while they cooked food for customers.

flappergirl

Sar53

I was on a bus the other day and a lady got on with a very large dog. The dog sat on the seat next to her the whole time she was on the bus. No one, including me, said a thing but I was very uncomfortable with it.
I was thinking of the next person to sit on that seat.
What would you have done .

Judging by some of the passengers I see on buses I imagine the dog was probably better groomed and more hygienic. He would be unlikely to stick chewing gum under the seat or sneeze all over the person in front for example.

Personally I'm thoroughly sick of young children running riot in eateries. They are a danger to waiting staff, plaster their grubby fingers everywhere and screech to high heaven like monkeys in the rain forest, all totally unchecked by their parents.

Worst of all you are supposed to find all of this utterly endearing, especially as a woman, or risk being burned at the stake. Give me dogs any day.

I agree whole heartedly.

A couple of years ago we went to local music venue that also does dinner on the music night. It's on a campsite run by a Dutch couple.

There were some young children there running about and generally making a noise. One group complained to the management who then asked the mother to keep her child under control. she was angry and wanted to know who had complained.

I was p......d off and I changed the angle of my chair and sat with my legs stretched out. The child, running heedlessly, fell over them. I had no sympathy.

There are times when adults do not want small children around and the parents should be aware of that.

Usually in France children are well behaved but this was a Dutch family.

Furthermore the French do take their dogs to restaurants without anyone complaining.

What do people dogs will do in a bar or cafe etc that would make it so unhygienic.? They don't normally pee on table legs, many of them couldn't reach the table top so what is it?

It all depends. Keswick is full of dogs in summer and the smaller cafes and pubs that serve meals are happy to have them, but for obvious reasons, the restaurants don't allow them in. I suppose someone who has paid £30 for a steak doesn't expect a dog to pop up and try to eat it.

Just walk 100 yards along any town centre high street and you're bound to observe plenty of humans whose unsavoury, unkempt, unwashed and sloppy appearance really should not be tolerated in a coffee shop/cafe establishment.

Compared to these individuals I'd say that dogs are no problem.