Dogs in coffee shops

Rekarie 👍🏻🐕🐶

Rekarie

I'm not having it . I'm not saying that homes don't smell doggy, of course some do. Totally agree that wet dog is an awful smell. However not all houses with dogs smell. A lot to do with the breed.

As for a Google search! Really? Well try googling about smelly humans. Bacteria that is left in all manner of places. By humans. Faecal matter. It's eye opening.

Give me a dog over many humans.

Also, working dogs don't tend to be pets. So maybe not a dog liver.

What a nasty, spiteful and ignorant comment to make.

“So maybe not a dog lover”. I have already told you I love dogs.

Of course working dogs can be pets. They know exactly when they are “on duty” and when they’re not.

My son’s mate is a Police DogHandler and his dog is also a much loved family pet. Shepherds, farmers, guide dog owners, wildfowlers would all disagree with you I’m sure.

Not commenting any more. 🤮🤮

Not commenting any more. 🤮🤮

“For this relief, much thanks”
There’s been too much banging on about dogs in shops, dogs in coffee bars, dogs in pubs, dogs in houses - I’ll be in the dog house now, but surely it has all been said ad nauseam by some, and equally refuted by others.

Regarding silly owners. Sometimes it is the cafe owners that add to the problem. One cafe near us really encourage dogs. The moment you sit down with a dog the guy appears with a dish of sausages for the dog.
All very well you might think but as we all know dogs have very sensitive noses so every time he passes with a dish of sausages some dogs get excited and stand up in expectation !
Another cafe, owned by a farming family completely ignore the dogs and don’t make eye contact. As a result the majority of dogs behave very nicely
Having said that living in north west Wales, the coffee shop owners rely on the visitors and if they have dogs they are welcomed as they need to live for twelve months and the season is comparatively short
As a side line we have 3 holiday cottages and dog owners tend to leave a cottage much cleaner and tidier than those with children

I was bitten on my hand today by a dog at a café.
It was painful and shocked me. I wasn't badly hurt but felt faint. The owner of the dog quickly left with her dog and another lady got me a glass of water and walked me home.

I hope she muzzles him before he bites a child.

Grammaretto
What a nasty shock.
I hope your hand is OK.

I'm sorry to hear that Grammaretto it's a shock when something like that happens. Do make sure you keep the wound clean and watch for signs of infection.
Take care.
I agree with you RosiesMaw this subject has been done to death. The two sides will always have their differences. I speak as a dog lover but don't expect everyone else to feel the way I do.

If the skin was broken Grammareto you may need antibiotics. My wrist had a tooth mark from my lab after he responded a an assault by a German shepherd - my arm got in the middle as I yanked him away. This was Saturday, I kept it clean got stuff from the pharmacy. By Monday it was looking infected. Our GP phoned in response to my call. He prescribed the strong antibiotics recommended for even minor bites. Mine was the shape of the end of a tooth, minor but the doctor said to go in to surgery if it hadn’t cleared in 7 days. It didn’t.

Thanks that's interesting. The bite punctured the skin. I felt sick and faint - shock. I washed and dressed the wound, with help, phoned my surgery who said to phone 111.

They said to take painkillers and check my tetanus jags are up to date.
My hand has swollen and is red around the plaster so I may phone back. I can't believe it warrants a trip to A&E.
The dog should be muzzled definitely. Apparently he had done this before.

@Grammaretto, if the dog has done this before, then it is classed as a dangerous dog and has an irresponsible owner. If you were to report the incident to the police, they would have the power to make the owner comply with muzzling at the very least. Sadly, if it has bitten more than once it will have a taste for blood and could potentially kill a small child. I really dislike the idea of animals being put to sleep, but in the case of a dangerous dog it is sometimes, sadly, the only answer. Your post illustrates only too well the problems that can arise with allowing dogs in coffee shops and restaurants

Also, I hope you feel better soon.

It saves me a fortune. I dislike dogs and don't see why I should pay money to eat in somewhere dirty, which dog friendly places will be. I too have seen staff fuss dogs and then handle food.

We recently had a week in the Yorkshire Dales and because every cafe and restaurant seemed to be full of dogs we didn't spend a penny supporting those businesses.

We ate at our beautifully clean (no dogs allowed) rented cottage or took packed lunches and had a wonderful time.

I was in the tea shop of an English Heritage place. Dogs were in the conservatory but one woman brought her dogs to the counter to order food. Two of the assistants came and petted both dogs and went back in kitchen. I watched them and they didn’t wash their hands when I pointed this out they said “ we aren’t handling food”. But they were using the till and bringing out food. I won’t be going there again

On holiday there may be more dogs in cafes because owners cannot leave them unattended in accommodation.

I don’t mind dogs in cafes if owners manage them appropriately, but if not, as others have said, it’s the owners not the dogs at fault.

With regards to hygiene, often the staff will pat and fuss the dog, then return to the kitchen where food is being handled. That doesn’t appeal. There again, it’s not the dogs at fault….

Grammareto - be cautious. I hadn’t been worried about my tooth mark which happened in a training class when my boy retaliated after a huge German shepherd lunged snarling at him (no laughing at the back there). It was Saturday afternoon. My pharmacist gave advice and advised GP Monday unless it was healing
My very laid back GP was clear, not antibiotic cream, there is a specific antibiotic for dog bites.
Look after yourself. It’s easy to say this dog is dangerous, it clearly is but you weren’t in a position to get details and involve police

Thanks Iam64 today I had a call back from the doctor and have begun a 5 day course of the penicillin used for dog bites.
The dog owner has sent me a very apologetic card. She took the dog to the vet today but it's getting a stay of execution. The vet is treating sore paws and thinks that could be causing the aggressive behaviour. The vet managed to muzzle him too.

Why are service dogs more hygienic than other dogs?

They are better behaved, as a rule.
No sniffing around tables, no pleading eyes fixed on your cream cake, no yapping.

Not that all dogs do those things, but some do.

Just realised the above aren't a hygiene issue, but they still get on my nerves, just the same as children do, if they're badly behaved.

Rgardless of which dog a backside belongs to, I don't particularly want to sit in a place it has been.

Grammareto, please take your antibiotics. All bites which break the skin , whether from an animal, or a person (!) carries a significant risk of infection. Mouth and teeth have bacteria, which are fine in the right place, but potentially dangerous in the blood system.

Thanks for the reassuring i update Grammareto.
Good to hear the owner took her dog to the vet. Aggression can be linked to the dog being unwell or in pain.

I go to Keswick a lot and it's full of dogs. The pubs and some of the cafes will allow dogs in, but the restaurants generally have a no dog policy.

HettyBetty

It saves me a fortune. I dislike dogs and don't see why I should pay money to eat in somewhere dirty, which dog friendly places will be. I too have seen staff fuss dogs and then handle food.

We recently had a week in the Yorkshire Dales and because every cafe and restaurant seemed to be full of dogs we didn't spend a penny supporting those businesses.

We ate at our beautifully clean (no dogs allowed) rented cottage or took packed lunches and had a wonderful time.

Yes I am getting heartily sick and tired of paying over the odds for very ordinary food and coffee. The dogs don't add to the experience either.

Out comes a mock tartan thermos flask and a cheese sandwich.

I don’t usually comment on here, however having seen the discussion re dogs in cafes I thought I would pen something. I’ve beer a widow for 14yrs living alone with no close family nearby and slowly my confidence and mental health started to decline. I got myself a little schnauzer dog who was a privilege to own for 11yrs until an aggressive cancer claimed her life. During my time with her I would visit my local cafe with her and have a coffee with breakfast or lunch and I felt confident with her there to do that. Now she’s gone I rarely visit the cafe, on days I do and I walk in with a smile on my face because there are dogs around and after asking owners they are quite happy for me to fuss their dogs. On days I go and there aren’t any dogs my face drops and I instantly feel saddened and get loss of confidence. I just have a coffee sitting staring out of the window because nobody speaks to an old lady by herself (I’m 73 and health not so good). I’ve never known anyone get ill because they’ve stroked a dog but if you’re worried just carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer in your bag. Please take time to think that for some people (especially those sitting alone) their doggy companion is their lifeline.

Hear hear- my lovely, gentle greyhound saw me through many dark days and lonely nights when DH died.