Rejected by hairdresser

I m one of the people Monica calls lucky and I suppose I am Thank you dad my dad was blond and just went fairer as he got older He had a lovely head of hair till the day he died at 92
I had blonde hair that also went lighter and lighter to a fairly even white/silver, it’s hard to judge the actual colour on yourself but that’s what others tell me, it’s still thick too I wear it short in a pixie style a bit spiky and I like my hair one of my better features …. other parts of me I don’t like so much 😀
I ve never ever coloured it just have it cut every 5/6 weeks for which I pay £18
I think the hairdresser did you a favour after all they know what they are talking about they are the experts

Very sorry to hear this. I would just try a different salon!

Madmeg my back story is slightly different, but my reaction to it is similar to yours. I use a colour to make the colour of my hair uniform. I find because of the mix of grey/white and colour areas in my natural hair, the unifying colour is subtly different depending what original coloured hair it is covering,, which gives me the natural variation in colour most people have.

I too find the colour lasts far more than 24 washes.. Your last sentence would be one I share.

Summerlove

Nansnet

Summerlove, it's not just older people who have problems with porous hair. Many young people, who dye their hair regularly have the same issues. Why don't you go back to the salon and ask what they CAN do to help your recover and regain a good condition so that you will be able to have your hair coloured without having bad results. I'm sure they can recommend some great hair treatments to help condition your hair back to being healthy, so why not treat yourself to that instead for the time being?

Where did I say only older people have porous hair?

Sorry, Summerlove, a mere accident ... that was meant to say 'SunnySusie', but your name was in the quote above my post and I accidentally typed your name instead!

M0nica

Very little faff to dying your hair. Takes half an hour every 3 or 4 months.

I wish it was only every 3 or 4 months ... mine needs doing every 3 or 4 weeks!

Nansnet

M0nica

Very little faff to dying your hair. Takes half an hour every 3 or 4 months.

I wish it was only every 3 or 4 months ... mine needs doing every 3 or 4 weeks!

At that point I would let nature take its course.

I fail to see how dyeing does not damage hair. For permanent colour the application of dye (with chemicals) swells and opens up the protective hair cuticle (which maintains hydration and flexibility).

After care then involves regular use of hair products to keep the damaged cuticle layer smooth and stop the colour leaching out.

I let my hair go to its natural grey for 2 years. I became increasingly fed up and felt grey all over. I’m now a blond for the first time in my life - I’m liking it

Farzanah

I fail to see how dyeing does not damage hair. For permanent colour the application of dye (with chemicals) swells and opens up the protective hair cuticle (which maintains hydration and flexibility).

After care then involves regular use of hair products to keep the damaged cuticle layer smooth and stop the colour leaching out.

The fact that you fail to see how dying your hair does not damage it, doesn't mean that that happens.

In my case my hair seems undamaged, certainly my hairdresser can see no damage, I assume because I dye my hair infrequently and do not use a hairdryer, so do not frazzle my hair with heat.

My hair gets roots done and ends tidied six weekly. It’s in really good health

Ah, but the hair police, who do not approve of women colouring their hair, do not want to know this. They want to know that we all have horrible dull frizzled hair and terrible haircuts

Naturally, when we say we don't, they do not believe us. None so blind as those who are determind not to see.

So basically this means that the pores on your hair won't close and hold in the colour they put on. Overly porous hair is often (not always) a result of heat and/or chemical damage. Ask your salon about protein treatments and use a moisturising shampoo and conditioner (argan oil is good) for repair. You can try again in a couple of months.

MOnica and Iam. You two are almost persuading me to give it a go, but my hair is very fine, and although colour fading is shiny. I think some colour may perk it up, but scared of damage.

The hair of a couple of my friends whose have dyed theirs looks rather dull and lifeless, especially one with a dark reddish colour.

Perhaps works best if hair is naturally strong and thick?

I'll join Iam and M0nica. I have dyed my hair since I was about 14 off and on, and it is in good condition.

Maybe it depends on hair type? British people have all sorts of different mixed and matched heritages, so one person's hair is bound to be different from many others. It's not about hair dye, as some of us can attest. Others may react badly to it if their hair is more weak or porous than ours.

Farzanah I am not up to persuading anyone whether they should dye their hair or not, but look around, yes you will notice all those whose hair is damaged. but how can you tell whether all the other people you see round you have dyed their hair or not?

According to a Mintel report. Over 50% of women of all ages dye their hair using a home dye - blonde is the most popular colour, but many choos brown. Obviously brunettes gone blonde will have a roots problems, but the rest?

You simply do not know haow many people walking around every day have coloured their hair, do the majority of women you see out have damaged hair?

I think dyed hair is usually pretty obvious. It often lacks the different shades of colour that natural hair has and of course some shades you would never find in natural hair. I’m not against it, had my hair highlighted for many years until I realised that my hair no longer looked right on me. My grey hair sits well with my skin tone (I don’t wear foundation, just eye makeup).

Barleyfields doesn't have to be "pretty obvious" you just have to go to a decent colourist. However, does it matter if it is obvious as long as the person who is wearing it is happy? No-one has purple hair but a friend dyes hers deep purple, she looks fabulous. Why does anyone have to look "natural"? Surely people can look just how they want to look? I don't dress, colour my hair, wear make up etc to please anyone else except myself. fwiw I'm not having a go at you, just opening up discussion.

my sister said that all the blond women should realise that people know they bleach it..... she said that from her dark brown head of hair at age 83!

Decent colourist who uses quality products. Like foxie, I dress, do my hair, don’t wear makeup etc for me not anyone else

lemsip

my sister said that all the blond women should realise that people know they bleach it..... *she said that from her dark brown head of hair at age 83!*

No, people can be blonde. I'm blond, though silver since middle age.

Bleaching and slight blond colour were since I became silver.

But dark brown at 83?

I've always used Nice n'Easy at home [41 years]
I use a colouring brush and paint colour on to the roots only. My hair is thick and shiny. Nice n Easy always include a good conditioner in the box.

Norah At 81, the hair on the crown of my head is still dark brown. My hair dresser reckons about 30-40% of my hair is still its original colour.

When my uncle died, at 85. The hair on the crown of his head was still dark brown though all around it the hair was white. I have the photo on his remembrance card to prove it.

So while it would be exceptionally rare for the hair of someone of 83 to still be entirely dark brown. I would not put it beyond the bounds of possibility.

I was in my late 50s/early 60s before my hair started going grey. One of my cousins did not start going grey until nearly 70 and I know of someone who did not start going grey until her mid-70s. In my family it is genetic. I remember my paternal grandmother as dark haired well into her 70s.

I think it’s the cutthat matters most.

A good stylist who can cut and style your hair to match the texture of the hair shape of your face modern without being over the top etc is worth their weight in gold.

My hair is so white now and love it and the style is remarked upon frequently.

M0nica

Norah At 81, the hair on the crown of my head is still dark brown. My hair dresser reckons about 30-40% of my hair is still its original colour.

When my uncle died, at 85. The hair on the crown of his head was still dark brown though all around it the hair was white. I have the photo on his remembrance card to prove it.

So while it would be exceptionally rare for the hair of someone of 83 to still be entirely dark brown. I would not put it beyond the bounds of possibility.

I was in my late 50s/early 60s before my hair started going grey. One of my cousins did not start going grey until nearly 70 and I know of someone who did not start going grey until her mid-70s. In my family it is genetic. I remember my paternal grandmother as dark haired well into her 70s.

Of course it's genetic, just as being blond. We lose hair colour as well.

I would also think it very exceptionally rare for the hair on someone 83 to be dark brown without dye, making the statement amusing.

lemsip

my sister said that all the blond women should realise that people know they bleach it..... *she said that from her dark brown head of hair at age 83!*

My blonde DD doesn't bleach hers any more; it's still blonde but not platinum any more.

I would also think it very exceptionally rare for the hair on someone 83 to be dark brown without dye, making the statement amusing.
I'll let you know if I get to 83 (🤞) but mine's still darkish brown and I'm pushing 80.