is my DGD a minx or just a normal 2 year old

I do agree that small children can be quite frightened by the strength of their own emotions and that they find it reassuring for an adult to step in and take control.

No Purpledaffodi, my experience has been small children are simply unable to pass a puddle without jumping in it, whether they're wearing their wellies or not

I hold Peppa Pig personally responsible for DGS being unable to pass a puddle without jumping in it. Luckily at the ripe old age of 5 he only does that with wellies on now

does anyone think that those comics could influence children and if so do the modern day tv programmes influence them. My DGD loves peppa pig, which seems harmless to me but she copies lots of peppas phrases and antics. I remember I used to pretend I was Minnie the minx or dennis the menace.

That was about the year I started reading the Beano

Just checked. 1953.

Didn't girls get called minx before Minnie? Minnie wasn't invented till about ...1947?

I once heard DH's aunt day to his mother (her SiL), "of course your (son) was a little swine when he was little." His mother agreed.
He grew up to be OK!

I don't want to hi-jack this thread so i have started a new one to discuss terms like Minx, that are no longer PC.

oh dear I didn't think that my 'Minnie the minx' nickname was in any way sexual, wont use it again, but then when I was young enough to read the beano lots of words had different meanings, you could be 'gay' and just be happy, if you were 'sad' you were unhappy not a social misfit, I could go on forever.
Today I had a little angel to babysit no naughtiness apart from sofa diving onto the carefully placed (brand new)cushion, but very quiet and biddable, even ate her dinner with no refusals. Yes her parents are quite strict and have a naughty seat, Im more laid back as I was with DD so I suppose I let her get away with more, I just love her little cheeky smile and hate to see those tears when I tell her off.

I stopped taking eldest GD then two to kinder gym because she used to growl at the other children. GD had at least a thousand tantrums lasting up until around the age of four, her mother at two had just one. GD bit GS, her cousin really hard when she was around two and a half and he a year younger while I was babysitting them both. Some of her tantrums and bad behaviour I know were because she couldn't tolerate food with preservatives. Once DD and SIL stopped giving her food that made her react, her behaviour improved dramatically. Other melt downs were often because she was such a difficult eater, she would get too hungry. Still now if she is over hungry she will start to have a meltdown. As soon as she eats something it stops, my DS and DD2 were the same.

One thing I noticed about GD even though she was horrible to other children was she was very kind and had a lot of empathy for children with disabilities. The first time she met my cousin's severely disabled child was Christmas Day and she was sitting with cousin's child who was around fourteen at the time, gently ticking his feet and chatting to him, she wasn't quite two. She would also make a fuss of other children who had disabilities.

Now at ten she is an absolute delightful child, you would never have guessed what a terror she could be.

I remember the previous discussion about the word minx as well. As used in this thread title, the word is innocent. So why worry? Words can have several meanings. The context should make it clear which one is being used. The context of this thread does make it clear. So there isn't a problem.

I think some people just like worrying and being shocked and stuff. Shrug.

Our family has always used "tinker" as an affectionate term to describe children behaving like scallywags (goodness only knows the origin of scallywags, no doubt someone will tell us)

Only when I began working with various travelling communities did I realise that tinkers were traditionally Irish travellers who sharpened knives and other house hold implements. I still find myself using the term - more recently in an affectionate if despairing way to describe my naughty young dog…...

I remember that thread too, HildaW - Minnie the Minx being thought of with horror in a sexual way by those over on MN, whereas those of us who remember the Beano think of her as a mischievous little girl!

Sorry, but DH and I still use Minnie the Minx as a term of endearment for DGD2! If DS and DIL objected to it I would not use it, don't care what that lot on MN think.

Minnie the Minx is nicer than 'naughty child' imo.

I called 3 year old DGS 'you cheeky boy' once meaning funny and a little bit impudent, slightly naughty but not bad.
His other GM was furious, said he was in no way 'cheeky' - in Australia it means a very badly behaved child.

I just asked my daughter on Skype how she would describe her own son, in one word, when he was in his naughty two's stage. I won't repeat it !! ( no not a 4 letter word). As I said before he is lovely now.

Can remember there was a bit of a curfuffle on here a while ago over the word 'Minx'. Language evolves over time and nowadays that can mean from one generation to another. In my mind its all about being like Minnie the Minx - sort of creatively naughty but with no real malice. In our family we used the word 'tinker' as in 'Tinkerbell'....naughty but charming. Its hardly anyone's fault that a term is taken up by others to mean something completely different - all that's needed is a brief explanation of any new meanings to save embarrassment...there is no need to take offence.

I suspect that the root of "Minx" in this thread was from "Mini the Minx" in the Beano. Sounds like a suitable comparison for some 2/3 year olds, certainly our GS. In fact our GS even has the red hair, perhaps that's significant ?.

" Mumsnet" what is that ?? Oh yes I remember now, worries me what they might think of our opinions - NOT.

think minx is an unfortunate noun - suggest naughty child instead
definition of minx (you would be hounded on mumsnet and the child would be applauded for being 'challenging' )
'an impudent, cunning, or boldly flirtatious girl or young woman.'

Depends on the child. I don't think DGS1 was ever a two-year-old! He was and still is good natured and rather philosophical with a great sense of humour. By contrast, his sister, a prima donna, used to have oscar-winning tantrums, well beyond two. Often enough the reason was known only to her. Now she is about to be a teenager!

GD1 used to have the terrible twos and throw herself on the floor, DS used to get the camera and video her, she would then jump up and ask to see the film. She has now turned into a mini teenager and flounces out of rooms slamming the door behind her.
GD2 was sweetness and light and I have never seen her have a tantrum.

My DGS at 2.5 is now becoming more challenging, which is not helped at all by his just having become a Big Brother.

Poor little chap it must be bewildering for him. Does Mummy love someone else now? Why is that baby now getting more snuggles with mum than I do?

Now she's three, little grandaughter has learned several facial expressions and has practised 'frowning at you with my eyebrows' which was fun, but she now checks to see if her boundary-pushing behaviour is going to get a frown.

As absent says, it's a process. Smiley, happy face for using the potty, pretend sad face or frown for throwing books on the floor - likewise, she can usually express her feelings now without throwing her body down or bursting into angry tears. Mind you, she still indulges in pushing it for her own amusement! Her twin sister does the exact opposite of whatever she is doing, just to keep us on our toes.

My darling GD is also a bit of a tinker....certainly more so than her older brother who is growing into a really deep thinker.

My son in law and daughter seem to be handling her outbursts very well and, as trisher quite rightly states...'she is their child' , so I am guided by them. They are firm but fair....and also consistent...so that the boundaries remain the same. Its definitely a stage she's going through...(a child psychologist will go to great lengths to explain its all about the development of self and understanding one's emotions and responses and growing intellect).
She will, I think, grow up to be more of a risk taker than her brother and it would be wrong to counter that but, she just has to learn than flinging toys and thumping will not get her anywhere. Methinks she's learning already that a big smile and a saucy look is far more effective....but that's a whole other story.

Sounds familiar as well. My DGD has similar outbursts, her mum and dad are very strict about things and it does seem to be working. They take toys from her if she is throwing or misbehaving with them in the house and remove her from wherever she is creating if it is outside. It is hard and if I witness it I want to go over and give her a cuddle, but I don't have to live with her, and she is their child so I restrain myself. On another note there is a theory that children who aren't disciplined when they have temper tantrums at 2 are actually quite frightened of their own emotions and appreciate an adult stepping in and providing control and discipline. Good luck though, I think it's harder when it's your GCs than when it was your own.

Sounds perfectly normal to me for a two year old. Do not worry she will grow out of it eventually (30 + in our case).
Our grandson was horrid when he was two ish, everything you mention and worse (except the turnip), he is now 5 and transformed into a loveable little boy.
Many children go through these learning phases when they are finding their place in life.