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teddymac Thu 18-Aug-16 14:53:15

I have three grandchildren, two granddaughters aged 5 and 3, my son's children, who live abroad and a grandson, my daughter's child, also aged 3 who lives closer to home, though not where I live. I have a fantastic relationship with my grandson who is always delighted to see me and tells me how much he has missed me. He is chatty and rewarding and I look forward to spending time with him. However, my elder granddaughter and I do not enjoy such a happy relationship. She is relatively fine for the first day or so when they come to stay, but after that it is downhill all the way with her being generally unpleasant and rude and really not wanting very much to do with me. To a lesser extent the same applies to her younger sister. Both girls are extremely attached to their parents in a way that I think makes it difficult to find a way in. I have wondered for a long time quite what the problem is and my most recent thinking is that she is jealous of the relationship I have with my son, just the usual mother/son relationship so nothing really to make her jealous. As I am widowed, there is no grandfather to add to the mix. She and my son have an exceptionally close relationship. Whatever the reason, of course I find it very hurtful, especially as I only see them for short periods maybe a couple of times a year, although we do Skype every week. It certainly doesn't make me want to spend time with her. I have accepted that this is the way she is and that hopefully things will improve as she gets older - although of course they may not. I just wonder whether anyone else has experienced this.

mintsmum Fri 19-Aug-16 13:47:06

My daughter had a difficult relationship with her grandma when she was small. Grandma interpreted her shyness as dislike and the child found her grandma's questions a bit frightening. However at about 10 yo she started going to stay with grandma on her own over night (without her sister) and they began appreciating each other based on a mutual love of animals eventually becoming really close. So please give it time and I'm sure things will improve

Devorgilla Fri 19-Aug-16 14:56:14

teddymac, you have been given good advice on this and it usually works out as they get older.
If she continues to be rude to you as she gets older then just use the teacher's trick of saying 'Would you like to rephrase that comment?' They know what that means!

Jalima Fri 19-Aug-16 16:02:09

Jaycee you have a good point there - perhaps she is jet-lagged

When DGS comes to visit he is very excited at first but can become a bit grumpy and tetchy after a day or two until he gets over the long journey and becomes adjusted to being here - which is so different to where he lives.

grannybuy Fri 19-Aug-16 19:11:12

I know how you feel. DD1's D's are 12 and 9 and when they stay with us with their parents we are almost ignored. I feel that they crave the attention of their parents, which takes up a lot of their time and energy. They are better when with us alone.

pauline42 Fri 19-Aug-16 19:44:53

Teddymac, when families move abroad (especially when their children are young) and they leave all their extended family behind, these families take on different lifestyles - and the children have a different kind of childhood than children who grow up in the UK. Living abroad forces the immediate family unit to be closer knit and grandparents usually don't have the luxury of spending long periods of time with their grandchildren and certainly less opportunity to be a support system to the family and become involved with their grandchildren's lives on a routine basis.

Your granddaughter is probably resentful of the relationship she sees you have with your son - having not been exposed to what it's like to have grandma around and being part of her small family unit on a day to day basis and so not really being part of seeing a mother/son relationship happening around her as she grows up.

I think you have to accept it is what it is - it may not always be like this - but trying too hard, or involving your son and daughter in law in trying to work out ways so your granddaughter will like you more could cause more problems than you're dealing with at the moment.

We grandmothers live with this idealistic view of what we mean to our grandchildren and we want the perfect relationship to happen automatically - then get a terrible sense of disappointment when reality falls short. Please don't measure your own worth by how much you granddaughter likes you - be the person that your son loves and respects and time will probably bring more balance to the situation.

f77ms Sat 20-Aug-16 00:12:43

I don`t agree with her being too young to understand , she is old enough for her parents to insist that she is at least polite to you . If such behaviour is allowed she may think it is ok to be rude whenever she wants. I don`t think it is up to you to say something though , her Mum sounds sensible so maybe her . Thinking back to when we were children , I would have been in terrible trouble for being rude to anyone let alone my Grandparents . Granachrist`s idea of doing something nice together is a good one but only if she isn`t rude to you !

annifrance Sat 20-Aug-16 11:03:12

She's five. 'Nuff said.

teddymac Sat 20-Aug-16 19:50:04

Thanks for all the wise words. Those from Pauline42 especially hit a chord. I would just add that her behaviour is the same when I spend time with them in their own home, so the jet lag theory doesn't fit in. I have often thought that if they lived closer and we saw each other more often for shorter periods of time this situation probably wouldn't have arisen. I do accept it is what it is and do not try too hard, but just do the things that I'm sure most Grannys do. But I have been interested in the different viewpoints. Hopefully things will improve in time. In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy my grandson.

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 20-Aug-16 21:00:54

The girls are 5 and 3, they are tiny! Their job isn't to be rewarding.

Penstemmon Sat 20-Aug-16 21:23:42

The adults in the situation need to model the behaviour they want to see in the child then she will feel at ease and 'warm up'. Parents are probably tense because they want it to go well, grandma is tense because she wants to feel loved by DGC. DGC will pick up on that and feel anxious herself! Whilst grandparents have an almost automatic love for their grandchildren, if they see them or not, it will not be the same for little children.
Adults need to get to gether to do something low key..jig saw/game of dominoes and be seen to be having fun..the children will , most likely, want to join in. Small steps to build a big relationship! Good luck.

Jennac Sun 21-Aug-16 11:17:26

Oh I so agree with luckygirl, Just enjoy that they have come to see you, we all have different personalities, I have eight GC everyone of them different. At the end of the day our children and GC are only lent to us they are not our property.
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notanan Sun 21-Aug-16 23:01:24

My eldest has a great relationship with most relatives.. the ones who just let her be her and enjoy her company, she comes out of her shell to them.

The ones she doesn't have a great relationship are the ones who put her on the spot and expect more from her than just her being herself.

Biggest problem is one relative in particular quizzes her, it's like an interrogation, you wouldn't speak like that to an adult! within the first 5 minutes there's been 20 questions, and they think she's being rude if she gets fed up answering them or if his answers aren't long enough "How are you? how's school, what are your friends called, what's your teachers name…."
- it's exhausting.
and it's not modelling being good company, they don't realise that they're not giving her any thing but questions. yet they seem to think she's rude for not blurting out all her news within minutes of arriving!
Other relatives just chat naturally.. they talk about their lives to DD.. and she pipes in with snippets from hers. They don't put her on the spot.

It's like a bloody oral exam. I don't blame DD at all for getting fed up with it, I don't actually think she's the one being rude/not great socially in that dynamic!

Maybe none of this will resonate with you, but just incase it's relevant I thought I'ld share it

notanan Sun 21-Aug-16 23:03:44

Honestly I get fed up with her being seen as "difficult" when she's not the one being tiresome company

Penstemmon Mon 22-Aug-16 09:54:57

notnan I know exactly what you mean! When I worked in schools parents often complained that their children would not talk bout school. I that terrible question advised that they stopped asking 'What did you learn / do today' and instead start telling the child what kind of day they had been having. That way the adult models the expectation of what is expected in a conversation!

Penstemmon Mon 22-Aug-16 09:56:23

Sorry previous post lost a phrase!!

notnan I know exactly what you mean! When I worked in schools parents often complained that their children would not talk bout school. I advised that they stopped asking that terrible question 'What did you learn / do today' and instead start telling the child what kind of day they had been having. That way the adult models the expectation of what is expected in a conversation!

notanan Tue 23-Aug-16 12:20:12

I made the same mistake when my first went to school Pens.

Poor thing, last thing you wanna do when you get out the gates is another test/quiz about school huh? no wonder they clam up! I would if I had that as I walked out the door of work!

I switched to asking her ^do you wanna know what me and your lil sis did today?" and she'ld always say yes, and I'ld chat to her about that then she'ld chip in with nuggets from her day

Penstemmon Tue 23-Aug-16 21:37:23

grin

Jalima Wed 24-Aug-16 00:16:14

I soon learnt not to ask DD what she had done in school - the answer was always 'Nothing' grin